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'''McMAHON'S (HORNPIPE).''' AKA and see "[[Paddy O'Brien's]]," "[[Seán Ryan's Hornpipe (2)]]," "[[Trip to Vermont]]." AKA - "[[James McMahon's Hornpipe]]." Irish Hornpipe. G Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AA'BB'. It has been said that the tune was composed around 1960 by fiddler Seán Ryan as "McMahon's" and it does appear in Brian Ryan's collection of the compositions of his father, a volume entitled '''The Hidden Ireland'''.  It appears in Bulmer & Sharpley ('''Music from Ireland, vol. 1''') as "[[Seán Ryan's]]." However, in Cyril Maguire's collection called '''The Hidden Fermanagh''' (2003) it is attributed to County Fermanagh flute player James McMahon (and appears as "James McMahon's Hornpipe"). The tune, points out Cork musician Paul De Grae, sits well on the flute, and, suggests Paul, it is possible that in publishing the posthumous collection, it was among Seán's papers and was simply assumed to be an original. The "[[Trip to Vermont]]" title comes from a 1974 album by Seamus Cooley and fiddler Johnny McGreevey, while the "[[Paddy O'Brien's]]" title is from a 1958 field recording of accordion player Jimmy Hogan made by Peter Kennedy.  
|f_annotation='''MISS MAHON'S (HORNPIPE).''' AKA and see "[[Paddy O'Brien's Hornpipe (3)]]," "[[Seán Ryan's Hornpipe (2)]]," "[[Trip to Vermont (The)]]." AKA - "McMahon's Hornpipe," "[[James McMahon's Hornpipe]]." Irish Hornpipe (whole time). G Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AA'BB'. The tune was composed to County Tipperary fiddler Seán Ryan, who did not have a title for it.  It was printed in Brian Ryan's collection of the compositions of his father, '''The Hidden Ireland''', and in Eamon Jordan's '''Whistle and Sing''' under the title "McMahon's Hornpipe", however, this name for the tune is probably a miss-hearing or a printer's errorSeán's tune was commonly known as "Miss Mahon's" in the 1950's and 1960's<ref>Information regarding the confusion of attribution and title comes from a personal communication by Fr. John Quinn, Jan., 2021. </ref>, and it is likely that the name 'Miss Mahon's' morphed into "McMahon's" erroneously. Cyril Maguire's collection '''The Hidden Fermanagh''' (2003) compounds the confusion of titles with a composer miss-attribution. There the hornpipe is credited to a specific 'McMahon', County Fermanagh flute player James McMahon (and thus appears as "James McMahon's Hornpipe"), although there is no evidence for this attribution.  
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Seán Ryan himself recorded the hornpipe with Peter Carberry in 1961 on their LP "Traditional Music from Ireland, vol. 2", where it is listed as "Seán Ryan's." Bulmer & Sharpley  '''Music from Ireland, vol. 1''' (1974) also gives the title as "Seán Ryan's," probably in association with the Avoca recording.  Collector and field recordist Peter Kennedy recorded a version in the field in 1958 played by accordion player Jimmy Hogan, with the title on the recording appearing as "Paddy O'Brien's," presumably Hogan's source for the hornpipe. O'Brien was a first cousin to Seán Ryan, and would have had easy and early access to his compositions.  
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''Source for notated version'': New Jersey flute player Mike Rafferty, born in Ballinakill, Co. Galway, in 1926 [Harker].  
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The "[[Trip to Vermont]]" title comes from a 1974 album by Seamus Cooley and fiddler Johnny McGreevey, but seems an idiosyncratic occurrence.
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|f_source_for_notated_version=New Jersey flute player Mike Rafferty, born in Ballinakill, Co. Galway, in 1926 [Harker].
''Printed sources'': Harker ('''300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty'''), 2005; No. 264, p. 81. Jordan ('''Whistle and Sing'''), 1975; 62.  
|f_printed_sources=Harker ('''300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty'''), 2005; No. 264, p. 81. Jordan ('''Whistle and Sing'''), 1975; 62.  
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|f_recorded_sources=Avoca 33-AV-134, Seán Ryan & Peter Carberry - "Traditional Music from Ireland, vol. 2" (1961). Larraga MOR 1302, Mike Rafferty - "Speed 78" (2004).  
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''Recorded sources'': <font color=teal>Larraga MOR 1302, Mike Rafferty - "Speed 78" (2004). </font>
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See also listings at:<br>
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [http://www.ibiblio.org/keefer/m05.htm#Mcmaho]<br>  
Alan Ng's Irishtune.info [http://www.irishtune.info/tune/1266/]<br>
Alan Ng's Irishtune.info [http://www.irishtune.info/tune/1266/]<br>
Hear the tune played by John Christie, Frank Wisenor, Seamus Richmond with Fr. Lyons at the Comhaltas Archive [http://comhaltasarchive.ie/search?tab=tracks&q=mcmahon#/tracks/602]<br>
Hear the tune played by John Christie, Frank Wisenor, Seamus Richmond with Fr. Lyons at the Comhaltas Archive [http://comhaltasarchive.ie/search?tab=tracks&q=mcmahon#/tracks/602]<br>
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X:1 T:Miss Mahon's T:McMahon's T:Seán Ryan's Hornpipe (2) N:The title for the tune was commonly "Miss Mahon's" in the 1950's and 60's, but N:became "McMahon's" thorough a mondegreen or printer's error. R:Hornpipe Z:Transcribed by Lesl Harker. "What Lesl thinks Mike Rafferty played." M:4/4 L:1/8 K:G (3GFE|:DGBG cABG|DG (3Bcd gzga|bg~g2 dedB|cBAG (3FED BG| DGBG cABG|Dz (3Bcd g~g2a|bg~g2 dedB|1 cAFA Gz (3GFE:|2 cAFA G4|| ||:bg~g2 agef|g~g2d ed (3Bcd|eB~B2 egfd|edcB AGEz| DGBG cABG|DG (3Bcd gzga|bg~g2 dedB|1 cAFA Gzga:|2 cAFA G4||



MISS MAHON'S (HORNPIPE). AKA and see "Paddy O'Brien's Hornpipe (3)," "Seán Ryan's Hornpipe (2)," "Trip to Vermont (The)." AKA - "McMahon's Hornpipe," "James McMahon's Hornpipe." Irish Hornpipe (whole time). G Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AA'BB'. The tune was composed to County Tipperary fiddler Seán Ryan, who did not have a title for it. It was printed in Brian Ryan's collection of the compositions of his father, The Hidden Ireland, and in Eamon Jordan's Whistle and Sing under the title "McMahon's Hornpipe", however, this name for the tune is probably a miss-hearing or a printer's error. Seán's tune was commonly known as "Miss Mahon's" in the 1950's and 1960's[1], and it is likely that the name 'Miss Mahon's' morphed into "McMahon's" erroneously. Cyril Maguire's collection The Hidden Fermanagh (2003) compounds the confusion of titles with a composer miss-attribution. There the hornpipe is credited to a specific 'McMahon', County Fermanagh flute player James McMahon (and thus appears as "James McMahon's Hornpipe"), although there is no evidence for this attribution.

Seán Ryan himself recorded the hornpipe with Peter Carberry in 1961 on their LP "Traditional Music from Ireland, vol. 2", where it is listed as "Seán Ryan's." Bulmer & Sharpley Music from Ireland, vol. 1 (1974) also gives the title as "Seán Ryan's," probably in association with the Avoca recording. Collector and field recordist Peter Kennedy recorded a version in the field in 1958 played by accordion player Jimmy Hogan, with the title on the recording appearing as "Paddy O'Brien's," presumably Hogan's source for the hornpipe. O'Brien was a first cousin to Seán Ryan, and would have had easy and early access to his compositions.

The "Trip to Vermont" title comes from a 1974 album by Seamus Cooley and fiddler Johnny McGreevey, but seems an idiosyncratic occurrence.


Additional notes
Source for notated version : - New Jersey flute player Mike Rafferty, born in Ballinakill, Co. Galway, in 1926 [Harker].

Printed sources : - Harker (300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty), 2005; No. 264, p. 81. Jordan (Whistle and Sing), 1975; 62.

Recorded sources : - Avoca 33-AV-134, Seán Ryan & Peter Carberry - "Traditional Music from Ireland, vol. 2" (1961). Larraga MOR 1302, Mike Rafferty - "Speed 78" (2004).

See also listing at :
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [1]
Alan Ng's Irishtune.info [2]
Hear the tune played by John Christie, Frank Wisenor, Seamus Richmond with Fr. Lyons at the Comhaltas Archive [3]



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  1. Information regarding the confusion of attribution and title comes from a personal communication by Fr. John Quinn, Jan., 2021.