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'''VIVE LA! (THE FRENCH ARE COMING).''' Irish, March (2/4 time, "with spirit"). D Major (Roche): C Major (Stanford/Petrie). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Stanford/Petrie): AAB (Roche). The tune is a march version of the air usually known as "[[Loch Erroch Side]]," "[[I'm O'er Young to Marry Yet (3)]]," "[[Over the Hills to Glory]]," "[[Lass o' Gowrie (1) (The)]]," or "[[Lakes of Sligo (The)]]." The title refers to the hoped-for intervention of French troops on the side of the Irish in the rebellion of 1798.  
|f_annotation='''VIVE LA! (THE FRENCH ARE COMING).''' AKA and see "[[Clare's Dragoons]]." Irish, March (2/4 time, "with spirit"). D Major (Roche): C Major (Stanford/Petrie). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Stanford/Petrie): AAB (Roche). The tune is a march version of the air usually known as "[[Loch Erroch Side]]," "[[I'm O'er Young to Marry Yet (3)]]," "[[Over the Hills to Glory]]," "[[Lass o' Gowrie (1)]]," or "[[Lakes of Sligo (The)]]." The title refers to the hoped-for intervention of French troops on the side of the Irish in the rebellion of 1798.
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''Vive la! the French are coming!''<br>
''Vive la! the French are coming!''<br>
''Vive la! they're all in view;''<br>
''Vive la! they're all in view;''<br>
''Vive la! the Saxon's running--''<br>
''Vive la! the Saxon's running--''<br>
''What shall our poor yeomen do?''<br>
''What shall our poor yeomen do?''<br>
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The tune is very close to the melody used for Davis's 20th century historical song "[[Clare's Dragoons]]." However, the tune has been used for centuries for various songs. Robert Burns set songs to two of the earlier forms of the melody, "A Song. -On Miss P- K-" (AKA "Loch Eroch Side") in 1784/5 and "I'm o'er Young to Marry Yet" in 1788. A song sheet at the Bodleian Library was issued (by "Haly Printer south Main street Cork, 18--") with the "Vive la" air set to a song called "The Irishman"   
The tune is very close to the melody used for Davis's 19th century historical song "[[Clare's Dragoons]]." However, the tune has been used for centuries for various songs. Robert Burns set songs to two of the earlier forms of the melody, "A Song. -On Miss P- K-" (AKA "Loch Eroch Side") in 1784/5 and "I'm o'er Young to Marry Yet" in 1788. A song sheet at the Bodleian Library was issued (by "Haly Printer south Main street Cork, 18--") with the "Vive la" air set to a song called "The Irishman"   
James Connolly penned a song called "Human Freedom" set to the "Clare's Dragoons" version of the air.
 
This mixture of French and Spanish is a reference to
the Scottish song, “Vive la! The French are coming”, which also provided the melody
for another song, found during a body search of the mother of a combatant killed in the
1798 uprising:
(4) Vive la, United heroes,
Triumphant may they always be;
Vive la, our gallant brethren,
That have come to set us free. (Zimmermann 2002: 160)
 
"This was found on the mother of Dogherty, an United Irishman who was killed by Woollaghan at Delgany, in the County of Wicklow in autumn 1798. She was seen to throw it out of her pocket, yet she swore she never saw it." ..."By means of songs the passions of the multitude were very much excited." Memoirs of the Different Rebellions in Ireland, from the Arrival ... - Volume 2 - Page 321 - Google Books Result
books.google.com/books?id=Evc9AAAAcAAJ
Richard Musgrave - 1802
 
We have often had people inquiring about the influence and nature of
Scotch-Irish music. Peter Gilmore has an article on Scotch-Irish Identity
and Traditional Ulster Music on the Pennsylvania Frontier. He appears to
establish that the dances done in the Ulster-American communities on the PA
frontier were the same as done in Ireland. These included three and
four-handed reels and jigs, and something called the "Irish Trot".
Apparently this wasn't a form of disease to which the Irish were prone
<grin>. These were danced to reels In 16 bars in 4/4 time) and jigs (32 in
6/8 time). One of the problems you have in the diaspora is establishing
that a particular phenomena came from ONLY a particular locale in the
British Isles. This is the case with music and dance. Ie even back in
Ulster, many of the tunes are also found in Scotland, so it is probably
impossible to say categorically that the tunes had to come by way of
Ireland. Very possibly, they arrived in multiple ways. He identifies a
number of early sources for tunes including "Paddy's Resource: being a
select collection of original and modern patriotic songs, toasts, and
sentiments compiled for the use of all firm patriots". This was produced by
the United Irish movement in Belfast in 1794. Other editions appeared in
Dublin and the USA. The first American edition was in Philly in 1796. OF
43 tunes it contains, many are of Scottish origin as well as Irish, Popular
English melodies also were used for lyrical expressions of Thomas Paine's
philsophy.
 
Gilmore also mentions that the Bard of Ballycarry, James ORR, immigrated to
Pennsylvania in 1799 but only stayed a few months.
 
A volume of his poetry prescribes 10 tunes for singing. According to Philip
Robinson, who wrote the introduction to "The Country Rhymes of James Orr,
the Bard of Ballycarry", most of the tunes are Scottish in origin, with a
sprinkle of Irish and English airs. To illustrate the re-use of tunes and
names, Gilmore describes a tune collecteed by Bayard in "Dance to the
Fiddle, March to the Fife" (1982), the most extensive record of instrumental
folk music of western PA -- 651 tunes collected from 1928-1963. Most of
these are Irish, Scots, or both in origin. One tune called "The Rocky Road
to Dublin" is unrelated to the Irish folk slip-jig of the same name. It
instead descendes from a Scots air "Loch Erroch Side", which has been used
as a reel, strathspey, and song melody. The tune appeared in pring in 1758
as "I'm O'er Young to Marry Yet" (also familiar to those who follow Scottish
folk music) and was first published as "Loch Errock Side" in 1876. It
became in Ulster "Vive La! The French are Coming" in Bayard, p 258) and
serves as the melody for "Virtue's Cause" in the PHilly edition of "Paddy's
Resource". Orr also uses in for his song "The Irishman".
 
http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=full_quote.php%3Fquote=424&Itemid=275
 
 
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James Connolly penned a song called "Human Freedom" set to the "[[Clare's Dragoons]]" version of the air.
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''Printed sources'': Stanford/Petrie ('''Complete Collection'''), 1905; No. 996, p. 254. Roche ('''Collection of Traditional Irish Music, vol. 3'''), 1927; No. 46, p. 13.
|f_printed_sources=Scanlon ('''The Violin Made Easy and Attractive'''), 1923; No. 5, p. 43.
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Stanford/Petrie ('''Complete Collection'''), 1905; No. 996, p. 254.
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Roche ('''Collection of Traditional Irish Music, vol. 3'''), 1927; No. 46, p. 13.
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VIVE LA! (THE FRENCH ARE COMING). AKA and see "Clare's Dragoons." Irish, March (2/4 time, "with spirit"). D Major (Roche): C Major (Stanford/Petrie). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Stanford/Petrie): AAB (Roche). The tune is a march version of the air usually known as "Loch Erroch Side," "I'm O'er Young to Marry Yet (3)," "Over the Hills to Glory," "Lass o' Gowrie (1)," or "Lakes of Sligo (The)." The title refers to the hoped-for intervention of French troops on the side of the Irish in the rebellion of 1798.

Vive la! the French are coming!
Vive la! they're all in view;
Vive la! the Saxon's running--
What shall our poor yeomen do?

The tune is very close to the melody used for Davis's 19th century historical song "Clare's Dragoons." However, the tune has been used for centuries for various songs. Robert Burns set songs to two of the earlier forms of the melody, "A Song. -On Miss P- K-" (AKA "Loch Eroch Side") in 1784/5 and "I'm o'er Young to Marry Yet" in 1788. A song sheet at the Bodleian Library was issued (by "Haly Printer south Main street Cork, 18--") with the "Vive la" air set to a song called "The Irishman"

James Connolly penned a song called "Human Freedom" set to the "Clare's Dragoons" version of the air.


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Printed sources : - Scanlon (The Violin Made Easy and Attractive), 1923; No. 5, p. 43. Stanford/Petrie (Complete Collection), 1905; No. 996, p. 254. Roche (Collection of Traditional Irish Music, vol. 3), 1927; No. 46, p. 13.





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