Annotation:Down Yonder: Difference between revisions

Find traditional instrumental music
No edit summary
No edit summary
 
(13 intermediate revisions by 4 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
[[{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Tune properties and standard notation]]
{{TuneAnnotation
----
|f_annotation='''DOWN YONDER'''. American; Air and Two-step. USA; widely known. C Major (Bayard): G Major (Phillips, Rosenbaum). Standard tuning (fiddle). One part. One of the most popular old-time songs ever recorded.  
<p><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">
<br />
'''DOWN YONDER'''. Old-Time. USA; Ga., Alabama, Mississippi, Pennsylvania. C Major (Bayard): G Major (Phillips, Rosenbaum). Standard tuning. One part. One of the most popular old-time songs ever recorded.  
<br />
<br>
<br>
The tune was recorded in Atlanta by the Scottdale String Band, named in honor of the mill village of Scottdale, near Atlanta, and home to the band members (Wayne W. Daniel, Pickin' on Peachtree, 1990). Their first recording was made for the OKeh studios on October 28, 1926, and between that date and 1932 the group recorded nearly thirty sides (all but two-released by Paramount-for OKeh). Bill Rattray wrote about the group in Old Time Music magazine ("Scottdale Boys," OTM, Summer, 1971) and said the group's records sold "well, or at least fairly well," and that "their instrumentation was profoundly different from that of the other, more well-known Georgia bands like the Skillet-Lickers, and gave their music a more sophisticated sound that that of the 'rough North Georgia' school." The group's repertoire varied more than usual for string bands from the region, and included "a wider range of material including tunes used chiefly by the jazz bands...the more traditional breakdowns, songs and ballads are hardly featured at all." [quoted by Daniel]. The Scottdale String Band's recording (OKeh 45188, Oct. 1927) was predated by another north Georgia group, (Clayton) McMichen's Melody Men, on Nov. 6, 1926 (Columbia 15130-D).  
The tune was recorded in Atlanta by the Scottdale String Band, named in honor of the mill village of Scottdale, near Atlanta, and home to the band members (Wayne W. Daniel, Pickin' on Peachtree, 1990). Their first recording was made for the OKeh studios on October 28, 1926, and between that date and 1932 the group recorded nearly thirty sides (all but two-released by Paramount-for OKeh). Bill Rattray wrote about the group in Old Time Music magazine ("Scottdale Boys," OTM, Summer, 1971) and said the group's records sold "well, or at least fairly well," and that "their instrumentation was profoundly different from that of the other, more well-known Georgia bands like the Skillet-Lickers, and gave their music a more sophisticated sound that that of the 'rough North Georgia' school." The group's repertoire varied more than usual for string bands from the region, and included "a wider range of material including tunes used chiefly by the jazz bands...the more traditional breakdowns, songs and ballads are hardly featured at all." [quoted by Daniel]. The Scottdale String Band's recording (OKeh 45188, Oct. 1927) was predated by another north Georgia group, (Clayton) McMichen's Melody Men, on Nov. 6, 1926 (Columbia 15130-D).  
<br>
<br />
<br>
<br />
The 1934 Skillet Lickers of "Down Yonder" recording was kept in print by RCA until 1960 and sold over a million copies all told; it was the third best-selling country music record in its initial release year (backed with "Back Up and Push"). Tony Russell writes that Gordon Tanner, Gid Tanner's 17 year old son, played the un-credited fiddle lead at the session. Written by L. Wolfe Gilbert in 1921 (Gilbert also wrote the words to "Waitin' for the Robert E. Lee"), it was recorded by the Peerless Quartette that year. Rosenbaum speculates this may have been the source for Clayton McMichen's 1926 version. "Fiddle tunes by this name have been collected in Ligonier, Pa., and in Iuka, Miss.: see 'Check-list of recorded songs in the English language in the Archive of American Folk Song to July, 1940' (Washington, D.C.: Library of Congress Mucis Division, 1942), I, 86" (Bayard). Art Rosenbaum (1989) relates a story about the name of the tune from Georgian Uncle John Patterson. Patterson was unaware that the song was popular before it was known as a fiddle tune. It seems that at a Fiddlers' Convention held in Atlanta in the 1920's Patterson was with Gid Tanner, Fate Norris, Lowe Stokes and others of the Skillet Lickers hangers on: "I was there with the banjo, and I was very small. I just wanted to be around, play with 'em. They'd say, 'Come on in, Uncle John.' I'd be sort of timid, and set down, and you talk about banjo, fiddle, and guitar, we'd tear it apart! So I broke a string. They'd been workin' on this fune for a long time, and nobody knew what was playin'. And I broke a string, and I says, 'I got to go down younder and get a string.' And they said, 'That's it, "Down Yonder"! And I went down on Decatur Street and got a string to go on the banjo." It was recorded by Herbert Halpert for the Library of Congress from the playing of Tishomingo County, Mississippi, fiddler John Hatcher in 1939. Commercial 78 RPM recordings include Shore's Southern Trio, Hershal Brown and His Washboard Band, McMichen's Melody Men, Doc Roberts, The Scottdale String Band, the latter-formation (1934) Skillet Lickers.  The following lyrics were sung by the Peerless Quartette:  
The 1934 Skillet Lickers of "Down Yonder" recording was kept in print by RCA until 1960 and sold over a million copies all told; it was the third best-selling country music record in its initial release year (backed with "Back Up and Push"). Tony Russell writes that Gordon Tanner, Gid Tanner's 17 year old son, played the un-credited fiddle lead at the session. Written by L. Wolfe Gilbert in 1921 (Gilbert also wrote the words to "Waitin' for the Robert E. Lee"), it was recorded by the Peerless Quartette that year. Rosenbaum speculates this may have been the source for Clayton McMichen's 1926 version. "Fiddle tunes by this name have been collected in Ligonier, Pa., and in Iuka, Miss.: see 'Check-list of recorded songs in the English language in the Archive of American Folk Song to July, 1940' (Washington, D.C.: Library of Congress Mucis Division, 1942), I, 86" (Bayard). Art Rosenbaum (1989) relates a story about the name of the tune from Georgian Uncle John Patterson. Patterson was unaware that the song was popular before it was known as a fiddle tune. It seems that at a Fiddlers' Convention held in Atlanta in the 1920's Patterson was with Gid Tanner, Fate Norris, Lowe Stokes and others of the Skillet Lickers hangers on: "I was there with the banjo, and I was very small. I just wanted to be around, play with 'em. They'd say, 'Come on in, Uncle John.' I'd be sort of timid, and set down, and you talk about banjo, fiddle, and guitar, we'd tear it apart! So I broke a string. They'd been workin' on this fune for a long time, and nobody knew what was playin'. And I broke a string, and I says, 'I got to go down younder and get a string.' And they said, 'That's it, "Down Yonder"! And I went down on Decatur Street and got a string to go on the banjo." It was recorded by Herbert Halpert for the Library of Congress from the playing of Tishomingo County, Mississippi, fiddler John Hatcher in 1939. Commercial 78 RPM recordings include Shore's Southern Trio, Hershal Brown and His Washboard Band, McMichen's Melody Men, Doc Roberts, The Scottdale String Band, the latter-formation (1934) Skillet Lickers.  The following lyrics were sung by the Peerless Quartette:
<blockquote>
 
''Railroad train, railroad train, hurry some more,''<br>
 
''Put a little steam on just like never before;''<br>
''Hustle on, bustle on, I've got the blues,''<br>
''Railroad train, railroad train, hurry some more,''<br />
''Yearning for my Swanee shore,''<br>
''Put a little steam on just like never before;''<br />
''Brother if you only knew''<br>
''Hustle on, bustle on, I've got the blues,''<br />
''You'd want to hurry up too.'' <br>
''Yearning for my Swanee shore,''<br />
<br>
''Brother if you only knew''<br />
''Summer night, fields of white, bright cotton moon,'' <br>
''You'd want to hurry up too.'' <br />
''My, but I feel glad, I'm gonna' see you all soon.''<br>
<br />
'''Lasses' cakes, mammy bakes, I taste them now.''<br>
''Summer night, fields of white, bright cotton moon,'' <br />
''I can hear the darkies croon,''<br>
''My, but I feel glad, I'm gonna' see you all soon.''<br />
''I'll see my sweetie once more,''<br>
'''Lasses' cakes, mammy bakes, I taste them now.''<br />
''There's lots of kissing in store.'' <br>
''I can hear the darkies croon,''<br />
<br>
''I'll see my sweetie once more,''<br />
Chorus:<br>
''There's lots of kissing in store.'' <br />
''Down yonder someone beckons to me,''<br>
<br />
''I seem to see a race in memory,''<br>
Chorus:<br />
''Between the Natchez and the Robert E. Lee,''<br>
''Down yonder someone beckons to me,''<br />
''Swanee shore I miss you more and more''<br>
''I seem to see a race in memory,''<br />
''Ev'ry day, my mammy land, you're simply grand.'' <br>
''Between the Natchez and the Robert E. Lee,''<br />
''Down yonder when the folks get the news,''<br>
''Swanee shore I miss you more and more''<br />
''Don't wonder at the hullabaloos.''<br>
''Ev'ry day, my mammy land, you're simply grand.'' <br />
''There's daddy and mammy, there's Ephraim and Sammy,''<br>
''Down yonder when the folks get the news,''<br />
''Waitin' down yonder for me.'' <br>
''Don't wonder at the hullabaloos.''<br />
</blockquote>
''There's daddy and mammy, there's Ephraim and Sammy,''<br />
</font></p>
''Waitin' down yonder for me.'' <br />
<p><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">
''Source for notated version'': "Copied from manuscript of Denune Provance, Peachen, Pennsylvania, September 21, 1943. Learned from traditional players about Dunbar" [Bayard]; Gordon Tanner (Gwinnett County, Ga.) [Rosenbaum]; Scotty Stoneman [Phillips].
The tune (as "Way Down Yonder") was recorded for the Library of Congress by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph from the playing of Ozarks Mountains fiddlers in the early 1940's. "Down Yonder", like "Five Foot Two," would be played at Texas house parties in the 1920's and 1930's for round dancing, more popular than square dancing, performed to hoedown music<ref>Micheal Mendelson, "Benny Thommasson and the Texas Fiddling Tradition," '''JEMF Quarterly''', vol. 10, Part 3, #35. </ref>.
<br>
|f_printed_sources=Bayard ('''Hill Country Tunes'''), 1944; no. 74.
<br>
Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 2'''), 1995; p. 44.
</font></p>
Rosenbaum ('''Folk Visions and Voices: Traditional Music and Song in North Georgia'''), 1989; p. 112.
<p><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">
|f_recorded_sources=Bluebird 5488A or B-5562 (78 RPM), Gid Tanner and His Skillet Lickers (1934).
''Printed sources'': Bayard. Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes'''), vol. 2, 1995; p. 44. Rosenbaum ('''Folk Visions and Voices: Traditional Music and Song in North Georgia'''), 1989; p. 112.  
Columbia 15130-D (78 RPM), McMichen's Melody Men (Ga.).
<br>
Folkways FTS 31089, Gordon Tanner (Ga.).
<br>
Folkways FA 2337, "Clark Kessinger Live at Union Grove."
</font></p>
OKeh 45188, Scottdale String Band (1927).
<p><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">
Superior 2784 (78 RPM), 1930, Tweedy Brothers (W.Va. brothers Harry, Charles, and George who played twin fiddles and piano; recorded but unissued by the Stripling Brothers {Ala.} for Decca in 1934).
''Recorded sources'': <font color=teal>Bluebird 5488A or B-5562 (78 RPM), Gid Tanner and His Skillet Lickers (1934). Columbia 15130-D (78 RPM), McMichen's Melody Men (Ga.). Folkways FTS 31089, Gordon Tanner (Ga.). Folkways FA 2337, "Clark Kessinger Live at Union Grove." OKeh 45188, Scottdale String Band (1927). Superior 2784 (78 RPM), 1930, Tweedy Brothers (W.Va. brothers Harry, Charles, and George who played twin fiddles and piano). Recorded but unissued by the Stripling Brothers (Ala.) for Decca in 1934.</font>
|f_see_also_listing=Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index [http://ibiblio.unc.edu/keefer/d09.htm#Dowyo]<br />
<br>
Hear Don Messer's recording at Ted McGraw's site [http://www.tedmcgraw.com/mp3/Messer.mp3s/mp9DPicDYon.mp3] (preceded by "[[Dill Pickle Rag]]"). <br />
<br>
|f_tune_annotation_title=https://tunearch.org/wiki/Annotation:Down_Yonder >
</font></p>
|f_sources_for_notated_versions="Copied from manuscript of Denune Provance, Peachen, Pennsylvania, September 21, 1943. Learned from traditional players about Dunbar" [Bayard]; Gordon Tanner (Gwinnett County, Ga.) [Rosenbaum]; Scotty Stoneman [Phillips].
<p><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">
}}
See also listing at:
-------------
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index [http://ibiblio.unc.edu/keefer/d09.htm#Dowyo].
</font></p>
<br>
<br>
----
[[{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Tune properties and standard notation]]

Latest revision as of 17:56, 13 April 2023


Back to Down Yonder


X:2 T:Down Yonder M:4/4 L:1/8 B:Bayard - Hill Country Tunes (1944, No. 74) K:C e4e c3|eged cc'b_b|a4 g f3|ac'ag f4| ecdc ecdc|e g2 e g4|ecdc ecdc|e g2 e g4| f f2 f2 e d2|^f f2 f2 e d2|g2 ^fg =fe d2|g2 ^fg =fe d2| e4 d c3|eged cc'b_b a4g f3|ac'ag f4| ecdc ecdc|e g2 e gz^fg|a4 b2g2|c'2 g ^f =f e3||




DOWN YONDER. American; Air and Two-step. USA; widely known. C Major (Bayard): G Major (Phillips, Rosenbaum). Standard tuning (fiddle). One part. One of the most popular old-time songs ever recorded.

The tune was recorded in Atlanta by the Scottdale String Band, named in honor of the mill village of Scottdale, near Atlanta, and home to the band members (Wayne W. Daniel, Pickin' on Peachtree, 1990). Their first recording was made for the OKeh studios on October 28, 1926, and between that date and 1932 the group recorded nearly thirty sides (all but two-released by Paramount-for OKeh). Bill Rattray wrote about the group in Old Time Music magazine ("Scottdale Boys," OTM, Summer, 1971) and said the group's records sold "well, or at least fairly well," and that "their instrumentation was profoundly different from that of the other, more well-known Georgia bands like the Skillet-Lickers, and gave their music a more sophisticated sound that that of the 'rough North Georgia' school." The group's repertoire varied more than usual for string bands from the region, and included "a wider range of material including tunes used chiefly by the jazz bands...the more traditional breakdowns, songs and ballads are hardly featured at all." [quoted by Daniel]. The Scottdale String Band's recording (OKeh 45188, Oct. 1927) was predated by another north Georgia group, (Clayton) McMichen's Melody Men, on Nov. 6, 1926 (Columbia 15130-D).

The 1934 Skillet Lickers of "Down Yonder" recording was kept in print by RCA until 1960 and sold over a million copies all told; it was the third best-selling country music record in its initial release year (backed with "Back Up and Push"). Tony Russell writes that Gordon Tanner, Gid Tanner's 17 year old son, played the un-credited fiddle lead at the session. Written by L. Wolfe Gilbert in 1921 (Gilbert also wrote the words to "Waitin' for the Robert E. Lee"), it was recorded by the Peerless Quartette that year. Rosenbaum speculates this may have been the source for Clayton McMichen's 1926 version. "Fiddle tunes by this name have been collected in Ligonier, Pa., and in Iuka, Miss.: see 'Check-list of recorded songs in the English language in the Archive of American Folk Song to July, 1940' (Washington, D.C.: Library of Congress Mucis Division, 1942), I, 86" (Bayard). Art Rosenbaum (1989) relates a story about the name of the tune from Georgian Uncle John Patterson. Patterson was unaware that the song was popular before it was known as a fiddle tune. It seems that at a Fiddlers' Convention held in Atlanta in the 1920's Patterson was with Gid Tanner, Fate Norris, Lowe Stokes and others of the Skillet Lickers hangers on: "I was there with the banjo, and I was very small. I just wanted to be around, play with 'em. They'd say, 'Come on in, Uncle John.' I'd be sort of timid, and set down, and you talk about banjo, fiddle, and guitar, we'd tear it apart! So I broke a string. They'd been workin' on this fune for a long time, and nobody knew what was playin'. And I broke a string, and I says, 'I got to go down younder and get a string.' And they said, 'That's it, "Down Yonder"! And I went down on Decatur Street and got a string to go on the banjo." It was recorded by Herbert Halpert for the Library of Congress from the playing of Tishomingo County, Mississippi, fiddler John Hatcher in 1939. Commercial 78 RPM recordings include Shore's Southern Trio, Hershal Brown and His Washboard Band, McMichen's Melody Men, Doc Roberts, The Scottdale String Band, the latter-formation (1934) Skillet Lickers. The following lyrics were sung by the Peerless Quartette:


Railroad train, railroad train, hurry some more,
Put a little steam on just like never before;
Hustle on, bustle on, I've got the blues,
Yearning for my Swanee shore,
Brother if you only knew
You'd want to hurry up too.

Summer night, fields of white, bright cotton moon,
My, but I feel glad, I'm gonna' see you all soon.
'Lasses' cakes, mammy bakes, I taste them now.
I can hear the darkies croon,
I'll see my sweetie once more,
There's lots of kissing in store.

Chorus:
Down yonder someone beckons to me,
I seem to see a race in memory,
Between the Natchez and the Robert E. Lee,
Swanee shore I miss you more and more
Ev'ry day, my mammy land, you're simply grand.
Down yonder when the folks get the news,
Don't wonder at the hullabaloos.
There's daddy and mammy, there's Ephraim and Sammy,
Waitin' down yonder for me.

The tune (as "Way Down Yonder") was recorded for the Library of Congress by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph from the playing of Ozarks Mountains fiddlers in the early 1940's. "Down Yonder", like "Five Foot Two," would be played at Texas house parties in the 1920's and 1930's for round dancing, more popular than square dancing, performed to hoedown music[1].


Additional notes



Printed sources : - Bayard (Hill Country Tunes), 1944; no. 74. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 2), 1995; p. 44. Rosenbaum (Folk Visions and Voices: Traditional Music and Song in North Georgia), 1989; p. 112.

Recorded sources : - Bluebird 5488A or B-5562 (78 RPM), Gid Tanner and His Skillet Lickers (1934). Columbia 15130-D (78 RPM), McMichen's Melody Men (Ga.). Folkways FTS 31089, Gordon Tanner (Ga.). Folkways FA 2337, "Clark Kessinger Live at Union Grove." OKeh 45188, Scottdale String Band (1927). Superior 2784 (78 RPM), 1930, Tweedy Brothers (W.Va. brothers Harry, Charles, and George who played twin fiddles and piano; recorded but unissued by the Stripling Brothers {Ala.} for Decca in 1934).

See also listing at :
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index [1]
Hear Don Messer's recording at Ted McGraw's site [2] (preceded by "Dill Pickle Rag").



Back to Down Yonder

0.00
(0 votes)




  1. Micheal Mendelson, "Benny Thommasson and the Texas Fiddling Tradition," JEMF Quarterly, vol. 10, Part 3, #35.