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|f_annotation='''LADY LUCY RAMSAY'''. AKA - "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey." AKA and see "[[Mrs. Todd's Strathspey]]." Scottish, Strathspey. C Major (most versions): D Major (Anderson, Rook). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Surenne): AAB (Anderson, Balmoral, Gow, Honeyman): AABB' (Athole, Kerr, Skye). MacDonald's '''Skye Collection''' (1887) credits this tune to [[biography:Nathaniel Gow]] (1763-1831), however the Gows printed the tune with the attribution "By a Lady." This is a curious attribution, however, for the strathspey is substantially the same as [[biography:Duncan MacIntyre]]'s "[[Mrs. Todd's Strathspey]]," printed in Edinburgh in 1794 in his '''Collection of Slow Airs, Reels and Strathspeys''', containing tunes without composer attribution but all considered MacIntyre compositions. The first strains of the two tunes are very similar, while the second differs somewhat more but still follows a similar harmonic and melodic contour. Edinburgh fiddler-composer and bandleader [[biography:Robert Mackintosh]] (c. 1745-1808) included a version of the strathspey in his '''Fourth Collection of New Strathspey Reels''' (c. 1804) under the slightly different title "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathpsey. | |f_annotation='''LADY LUCY RAMSAY'''. AKA - "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey." AKA and see "[[Lady Lindsay's Reel]]," "[[Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey]]," "[[Mrs. Todd's Strathspey]]." Scottish, Strathspey (whole time). C Major (most versions): D Major (Anderson, Rook). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Surenne): AAB (Anderson, Balmoral, Gow, Honeyman): AABB' (Athole, Kerr, Lowe, Skye). MacDonald's '''Skye Collection''' (1887) credits this tune to [[biography:Nathaniel Gow]] (1763-1831), however the Gows printed the tune with the attribution "By a Lady." "Lady Lucy Ramsay's Favorite Strathspey" was printed on a single sheet by Gow & Shepherd in the first decade of the 19th century, this time with the attribution "by A female amateur"<ref>http://hms.scot/fiddle/source/258/ </ref>. This is a curious attribution, however, for the strathspey is substantially the same as [[biography:Duncan MacIntyre]]'s "[[Mrs. Todd's Strathspey]]," printed in Edinburgh in 1794 in his '''Collection of Slow Airs, Reels and Strathspeys''', containing tunes without composer attribution but all considered MacIntyre compositions. The first strains of the two tunes are very similar, while the second differs somewhat more but still follows a similar harmonic and melodic contour. Edinburgh fiddler-composer and bandleader [[biography:Robert Mackintosh]] (c. 1745-1808) included a version of the strathspey in his '''Fourth Collection of New Strathspey Reels''' (c. 1804) under the slightly different title "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathpsey," although Mackintosh also composed the strathspey "[[Lady Lucinda Ramsay]]," presumably also for the same person. | ||
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There is a Scottish Country Dance by the name of Lady Lucy Ramsay. The strathspey may be a companion piece to "[[Lady Mary Ramsay]]." | There is a popular Scottish Country Dance by the name of Lady Lucy Ramsay. The strathspey may be a companion piece to "[[Lady Mary Ramsay]]." | ||
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Lucy is perhaps Lady Elisabeth Ramsay (1769-1848), the 2nd daughter of George, the 8th Earl of Dalhousie (died 1787). ( | Lady Lucy (or Louisa) Ramsay has been difficult to trace. She is perhaps Lady Elisabeth Ramsay (1769-1848), the 2nd daughter of George, the 8th Earl of Dalhousie (died 1787), or more likely her sister Lady Lucinda Maria Ramsay (1773-1812). Lady Lucinda died at Dalhousie Castle, so perhaps she did not wed (there is no record of a marriage). If this is the right family it must have been that of the 8th Earl, as the 9th Earl of Dalhouse, also a George, did not marry until 1805, five years after the tune was published; he and his wife was Christina did not have any female children. Lady Elizabeth married Sir Thomas Moncreiffe of that Ilk, 5th Bt., in 1786. Nathaniel Gow also composed a reel, "[[Lady L. Ramsay's Reel]]", probably in her honor as well. | ||
|f_source_for_notated_version= | |f_source_for_notated_version=Browne Family music manuscript collection (early 19th century, Lake District, Cumbria) [Offord]. | ||
|f_printed_sources=Anderson ('''Anderson's Budget of Strathspeys, Reels & Country Dances for the German Flute or Violin'''), Edinburgh, 1820; p. 29. Carlin ('''Gow Collection'''), 1986; No. 99. Gow ('''Fourth Collection of Strathspey Dances'''), 2nd ed., originally 1800; p. 16. Honeyman ('''Strathspey, Reel and Hornpipe Tutor'''), 1898; p. 15. Kerr ('''Merry Melodies, vol. 1'''), c. 1880; Set 23, No. 3, p. 14. J. Kenyon Lees ('''Balmoral Reel Book'''), c. 1910; p. 5. MacDonald ('''The Skye Collection'''), 1887; p. 120. Robert Mackintosh ('''Fourth Collection of New Strathspey Reels'''), c. 1804; p. 15 (as "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey). Stewart-Robertson ('''The Athole Collection'''), 1884; p. 66. Surenne ('''Dance Music of Scotland'''), 1852; pp. 64-65. | |f_printed_sources=Anderson ('''Anderson's Budget of Strathspeys, Reels & Country Dances for the German Flute or Violin'''), Edinburgh, 1820; p. 29. Carlin ('''Gow Collection'''), 1986; No. 99. Gow ('''Fourth Collection of Strathspey Dances'''), 2nd ed., originally 1800; p. 16. Honeyman ('''Strathspey, Reel and Hornpipe Tutor'''), 1898; p. 15. Kerr ('''Merry Melodies, vol. 1'''), c. 1880; Set 23, No. 3, p. 14. J. Kenyon Lees ('''Balmoral Reel Book'''), c. 1910; p. 5. Joseph Lowe ('''Lowe's Collection of Reels, Strathspeys and Jigs, book 3'''), 1844–1845; p. 16. MacDonald ('''The Skye Collection'''), 1887; p. 120. Robert Mackintosh ('''Fourth Collection of New Strathspey Reels'''), c. 1804; p. 15 (as "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey). John Offord ('''Bonny Cumberland'''), 2018; p. 23 (as "Lady Lucy Ramsey's Favourite"). Stewart-Robertson ('''The Athole Collection'''), 1884; p. 66. Surenne ('''Dance Music of Scotland'''), 1852; pp. 64-65. | ||
|f_recorded_sources=Beltona SDP03, Jimmy Shand - "King of the Button Box" (2002). | |f_recorded_sources=Beltona SDP03, Jimmy Shand - "King of the Button Box" (2002). Green Ginger - "Gang on the Same Gate" (1999). Rounder Records, Alex Francis MacKay - "A Lifelong Home" (1997). | ||
|f_see_also_listing=Alan Syner's Cape Breton Fiddle Recording Index [http://www.cbfiddle.com/rx/tune/t1964.html]<br> | |f_see_also_listing=Alan Syner's Cape Breton Fiddle Recording Index [http://www.cbfiddle.com/rx/tune/t1964.html]<br> | ||
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [http://www.ibiblio.org/keefer/l01.htm#Ladlura]<br> | Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [http://www.ibiblio.org/keefer/l01.htm#Ladlura]<br> | ||
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LADY LUCY RAMSAY. AKA - "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey." AKA and see "Lady Lindsay's Reel," "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathspey," "Mrs. Todd's Strathspey." Scottish, Strathspey (whole time). C Major (most versions): D Major (Anderson, Rook). Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Surenne): AAB (Anderson, Balmoral, Gow, Honeyman): AABB' (Athole, Kerr, Lowe, Skye). MacDonald's Skye Collection (1887) credits this tune to biography:Nathaniel Gow (1763-1831), however the Gows printed the tune with the attribution "By a Lady." "Lady Lucy Ramsay's Favorite Strathspey" was printed on a single sheet by Gow & Shepherd in the first decade of the 19th century, this time with the attribution "by A female amateur"[1]. This is a curious attribution, however, for the strathspey is substantially the same as biography:Duncan MacIntyre's "Mrs. Todd's Strathspey," printed in Edinburgh in 1794 in his Collection of Slow Airs, Reels and Strathspeys, containing tunes without composer attribution but all considered MacIntyre compositions. The first strains of the two tunes are very similar, while the second differs somewhat more but still follows a similar harmonic and melodic contour. Edinburgh fiddler-composer and bandleader biography:Robert Mackintosh (c. 1745-1808) included a version of the strathspey in his Fourth Collection of New Strathspey Reels (c. 1804) under the slightly different title "Lady Louisa Ramsay's Strathpsey," although Mackintosh also composed the strathspey "Lady Lucinda Ramsay," presumably also for the same person.
There is a popular Scottish Country Dance by the name of Lady Lucy Ramsay. The strathspey may be a companion piece to "Lady Mary Ramsay."
Lady Lucy (or Louisa) Ramsay has been difficult to trace. She is perhaps Lady Elisabeth Ramsay (1769-1848), the 2nd daughter of George, the 8th Earl of Dalhousie (died 1787), or more likely her sister Lady Lucinda Maria Ramsay (1773-1812). Lady Lucinda died at Dalhousie Castle, so perhaps she did not wed (there is no record of a marriage). If this is the right family it must have been that of the 8th Earl, as the 9th Earl of Dalhouse, also a George, did not marry until 1805, five years after the tune was published; he and his wife was Christina did not have any female children. Lady Elizabeth married Sir Thomas Moncreiffe of that Ilk, 5th Bt., in 1786. Nathaniel Gow also composed a reel, "Lady L. Ramsay's Reel", probably in her honor as well.
