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[[File:MagicCityTrio.jpg| | [[File:MagicCityTrio.jpg|180px|thumb|right|John Dykes' Magic City Trio]]Various couplets are sung to the first strain. These words were sung by guitarist Hub Mahaffey on the Dykes Magic City Trio's 1927 recording: | ||
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''Down the road, down the road;<br> | ''Down the road, down the road;<br> | ||
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''I got stuck on Ida too.''<br> | ''I got stuck on Ida too.''<br> | ||
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Scott County, southwestern Virginia, fiddler James Cowan Powers (1877-1953) recorded "Ida Red" in Camden, N.J., in August, 1924, for Edison Records, along with his family band, consisting of Powers and his children, Charles, Orpha, Carrie and Ada (his wife had died in 1914). [[File:PowersFamily.jpg|left|340px|thumb|Fiddlin' Cowan Powers and family (front row, from left). Cowan Powers, daughters Orpha, Carrie, and Ada, and son Charlie. [Photograph courtesy of James Powers, Patty Powers, and Stephanie Collins]]] It was the earliest recording of a family band in country music. James's son, Charlie, sang: | |||
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''Ida Red | ''Ida Red, she lives in town,''<br> | ||
'' | ''She weighs three hundred and forty pounds.''<br> | ||
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''Ida Red, she won't do right,''<br> | |||
''She won't do nothing but quarell and fight.''<br> | |||
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''Down the road(?) a mile and half,''<br> | |||
''My little honey looks back and laughs.''<br> | |||
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''Down the road and across the creek,''<br> | |||
''Can't get a letter but once a week.''<br> | |||
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''Ida Red, she's workin' on the road,''<br> | |||
''Workin' on a Sunday for to buy her a Ford.''<br> | |||
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Other recorded couplets sung to the tune (sometimes 'floating' verses) go: | |||
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Refrain<br> | Refrain<br> | ||
''Ida Red, pearly blue,''<br> | ''Ida Red, pearly blue,''<br> | ||
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''I don't know and I don't care,''<br> | ''I don't know and I don't care,''<br> | ||
''know there's hard times everywhere,''<br> | ''know there's hard times everywhere,''<br> | ||
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''Down the road hat in my hand,''<br> | ''Down the road hat in my hand,''<br> | ||
''hello sheriff I've killed my man,''<br> | ''hello sheriff I've killed my man,''<br> | ||
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''Ida Red you're workin on the road,''<br> | ''Ida Red you're workin on the road,''<br> | ||
''work enough money to buy a load.''<br> | ''work enough money to buy a load.''<br> | ||
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See also the related songs "Over the Road" (Gus Cannon) and two songs from Uncle Dave Macon, "Feather Bed" and "Over the Road I'm Bound To Go". See also the related "Down the Road." | See also the related songs "Over the Road" (Gus Cannon) and two songs from Uncle Dave Macon, "Feather Bed" and "Over the Road I'm Bound To Go". See also the related "Down the Road." | ||
|f_source_for_notated_version=Double Decker String Band (Kuntz): Frank West (Murray County, Oklahoma) [Thede]; Bob Wills and Sleepy Johnson (Texas) [Phillips]; Tweedy Brothers (W.Va.) [Phillips]; Jake Phelps and Street Butler (Pea Ridge, Todd County, Ky., 1965) [Titon]; James Cowan Powers [Milliner & Koken]; Bill Hensley [Milliner & Koken]; Ed Haley [Milliner & Koken]; John Dykes [Milliner & Koken]; Jim Bowles [Milliner & Koken]. | |f_source_for_notated_version=Double Decker String Band (Kuntz): Frank West (Murray County, Oklahoma) [Thede]; Bob Wills and Sleepy Johnson (Texas) [Phillips]; Tweedy Brothers (W.Va.) [Phillips]; Jake Phelps and Street Butler (Pea Ridge, Todd County, Ky., 1965) [Titon]; James Cowan Powers [Milliner & Koken]; Bill Hensley [Milliner & Koken]; Ed Haley [Milliner & Koken]; John Dykes [Milliner & Koken]; Jim Bowles [Milliner & Koken]. | ||
|f_printed_sources='''The Devil's Box''', vol. 9, no. 1, 1975, p. 75. | |f_printed_sources='''The Devil's Box''', vol. 9, no. 1, 1975, p. 75. | ||
'''Fiddler Magazine''', vol. 5, No. 1, Spring 1998; pp. 37-39 (full transcription of Ed Hayl | |||
Kaufman ('''Beginning Old Time Fiddle'''), 1977; p. 37. | Kaufman ('''Beginning Old Time Fiddle'''), 1977; p. 37. | ||
Krassen ('''Appalachian Fiddle'''), 1973; p. 16. | Krassen ('''Appalachian Fiddle'''), 1973; p. 16. | ||
Kuntz ('''Ragged but Right'''), 1987; pp. 387–388. | Kuntz ('''Ragged but Right'''), 1987; pp. 387–388. | ||
Milliner & Koken ('''Milliner-Koken Collection of American Fiddle Tunes'''), 2011; pp. 311–314. | Milliner & Koken ('''Milliner-Koken Collection of American Fiddle Tunes'''), 2011; pp. 311–314 (five versions). | ||
Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 1'''), 1994; p. 117 (two versions). | Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 1'''), 1994; p. 117 (two versions). | ||
Thede ('''The Fiddle Book'''), 1967; pp. 60–61. | Thede ('''The Fiddle Book'''), 1967; pp. 60–61. |
Latest revision as of 04:42, 22 October 2023
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IDA RED. AKA – "Idy Red." American, Reel (2/4 or cut time). USA; West Virginia, southwest Virginia, east Tennessee, Kentucky, north Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas. A Major (Kuntz, Milliner/Koken, Phillips): G Major (Krassen, Milliner/Koken, Titon). AEae or Standard tuning (fiddle). AB: AABB (Krassen). "Ida Red" is a melody widespread throughout the South and Mid-West, in both purely instrumental versions and versions with words. The character 'Ida Red' is the subject of a somber song in Alan Lomax's collection American Ballads and Folk Songs (1934), in a section of 'Negro Bad Men', collected from an informant at a Texas prison farm. However, it has no relation to the Ida Red of the various fiddle tune couplets whose gender is feminine or androgynous and often disparagingly comic. Jeff Titon (2001) believes the lyrics suggest an African-American or minstrel origin, but no direct antecedents have surfaced to date.
The "Ida Red" tunes as a group vary widely in their melodic content even within geographic regions, although nearly all versions retain the distinctive cadence, with the majority played in 'A' major, often 'cross-tuned' (i.e. AEae fiddle tuning). It was recorded for the Library of Congress by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph from Ozarks Mountains fiddlers in the early 1940's. Riley Pucket's (north Georgia) version of the tune, released in 1926, became the second best-selling country music record for the year. Kentucky fiddler Jim Bowles, like many, plays a cross-tuned version. Titon records that the tune was included in the 1915 Berea College students' tune lists, but was not played in any of the Berea, Kentucky, fiddle contests of the era.
Scott County, southwestern Virginia, fiddler James Cowan Powers (1877-1953) recorded "Ida Red" in Camden, N.J., in August, 1924, for Edison Records, along with his family band, consisting of Powers and his children, Charles, Orpha, Carrie and Ada (his wife had died in 1914). It was the earliest recording of a family band in country music. James's son, Charlie, sang:Down the road, down the road;
Can't get a letter from down the road.
Down the road, across the creek,
Can't get a letter but once a week.
Ida Red and Ida Blue,
I got stuck on Ida too.
Ida Red, she lives in town,
She weighs three hundred and forty pounds.
Ida Red, she won't do right,
She won't do nothing but quarell and fight.
Down the road(?) a mile and half,
My little honey looks back and laughs.
Down the road and across the creek,
Can't get a letter but once a week.
Ida Red, she's workin' on the road,
Workin' on a Sunday for to buy her a Ford.
Other recorded couplets sung to the tune (sometimes 'floating' verses) go:
Refrain
Ida Red, pearly blue,
My little honey don't I love you.
I don't know and I don't care,
know there's hard times everywhere,
Down the road hat in my hand,
hello sheriff I've killed my man,
Ida Red you're workin on the road,
work enough money to buy a load.
Ida Red, Ida Blue,
Ida bit a hoecake half in two,
If I'd a-listened to what Ida said,
I'd a-been sleepin' in Ida's bed.
I went down town one day in a lope,
Fool around till I stole a coat;
Then I come back and I do my best,
Fool Around till I got the vest.
O weep! O my Idy!
For over dat road I'm bound to go. . . . {Thede}
"Ida Red" verses floated to other tunes as well. North Carolina banjo player Charlie Poole and his band The North Carolina Ramblers issued their recorded of "Shooting Creek (3)" in 1928, containing the lines:
Ida Red, she's a darned old fool,
Tried to put a saddle on a hump-back mule.
or the variant:
Ida Red, she ain't a fool,
Bigger'n an elephant, stronger'n a mule.
Georgia fiddler Bill Shores, a native Alabamian who spent most of his life in the Rome, Georgia, area (according to Wayne Daniels), recorded the tune with guitarist Riley Puckett in Atlanta in 1926. Texas fiddler Bob Wills, the 'Father of Western Swing', used the melody for his recording of "Ida Red," but with different lyrics[1]. Later, in 1949, Wills and his band The Texas Playboys issued a boogie-woogie version of "Ida Red" called "Ida Red Likes The Boogie"[2], which made it into Billboard's top ten songs of 1950.
See also the related songs "Over the Road" (Gus Cannon) and two songs from Uncle Dave Macon, "Feather Bed" and "Over the Road I'm Bound To Go". See also the related "Down the Road."