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'''RYE STRAW [1].''' AKA and see "[[Alabama Waltz]]" (Mississippi title), “[[Big Fish]],” “[[Black My Boots and Go See the Widow]],” "[[Dog Shit a Rye Straw]]," "[[Dog in the Rye Straw]]," "[[Dog in Difficulty (The)]]," "[[Joke on the Puppy (The)]]," "[[Lady's Fancy]]," "[[Ladies Fancy (4)]]," "[[Preacher's Favorite]]," "[[Unfortunate Pup (The)]]," "[[Unfortunate Dog (The)]]," "[[Whoop from Arkansas (A)]]," Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Indiana, Arkansas. D Major (most versions): A Major (Frank Kittrell, Silberberg): G Major (Doc Roberts). Standard or ADae (Frank Kittrell) tunings (fiddle). AA’B (Titon): AABB (Brody, Kittrell, Spadaro): ABC (Silberberg): AA'BBCC (Phillips): AABBCC (Ford): ABCCB' (Krassen): AABCCCCDD (Reiner & Anick). The melody was known throughout the South and Midwest under a variety of (mostly related) titles, but appears to have first been published in the 1880's by George Coe Co. of Boston, Mass., as "[[Whoop from Arkansas (A)]]" and later by Missouri physician W.H. Morris ('''Old Time Violin Melodies''', 1927, No. 28) as  "[[Acrobat]]." Marion Thede published Ozarks region versions as "[[Preacher's Favoirite]]" and "[[Ladies Fancy (4)]]" in her '''The Fiddle Book''' (1960).  
'''RYE STRAW [1].''' AKA and see "[[Alabama Waltz]]" (Mississippi title), “[[Big Fish]],” “[[Black My Boots and Go See the Widow]],” "[[Dog Shit a Rye Straw]]," "[[Dog in the Rye Straw]]," "[[Dog in Difficulty (The)]]," "[[Joke on the Puppy (The)]]," "[[Lady's Fancy]]," "[[Ladies Fancy (4)]]," "[[Preacher's Favorite]]," "[[Unfortunate Pup (The)]]," "[[Unfortunate Dog (The)]]," "[[Whoop from Arkansas (A)]]," Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Indiana, Arkansas. D Major (most versions): A Major (Frank Kittrell, Silberberg): G Major (Doc Roberts). Standard or ADae (Frank Kittrell) tunings (fiddle). AA’B (Titon): AABB (Brody, Kittrell, Spadaro): ABC (Silberberg): AA'BBCC (Phillips): AABBCC (Ford): ABCCB' (Krassen): AABCCCCDD (Reiner & Anick). The melody was known throughout the South and Midwest under a variety of (mostly related) titles, but appears to have first been published in the 1880's by George Coe Co. of Boston, Mass., as "[[Whoop from Arkansas (A)]]" and later by Missouri physician W.H. Morris ('''Old Time Violin Melodies''', 1927, No. 28) as  "[[Acrobat]]." Marion Thede published Ozarks region versions as "[[Preacher's Favorite]]" and "[[Ladies Fancy (4)]]" in her '''The Fiddle Book''' (1960).  
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RYE STRAW [1]. AKA and see "Alabama Waltz" (Mississippi title), “Big Fish,” “Black My Boots and Go See the Widow,” "Dog Shit a Rye Straw," "Dog in the Rye Straw," "Dog in Difficulty (The)," "Joke on the Puppy (The)," "Lady's Fancy," "Ladies Fancy (4)," "Preacher's Favorite," "Unfortunate Pup (The)," "Unfortunate Dog (The)," "Whoop from Arkansas (A)," Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Indiana, Arkansas. D Major (most versions): A Major (Frank Kittrell, Silberberg): G Major (Doc Roberts). Standard or ADae (Frank Kittrell) tunings (fiddle). AA’B (Titon): AABB (Brody, Kittrell, Spadaro): ABC (Silberberg): AA'BBCC (Phillips): AABBCC (Ford): ABCCB' (Krassen): AABCCCCDD (Reiner & Anick). The melody was known throughout the South and Midwest under a variety of (mostly related) titles, but appears to have first been published in the 1880's by George Coe Co. of Boston, Mass., as "Whoop from Arkansas (A)" and later by Missouri physician W.H. Morris (Old Time Violin Melodies, 1927, No. 28) as "Acrobat." Marion Thede published Ozarks region versions as "Preacher's Favorite" and "Ladies Fancy (4)" in her The Fiddle Book (1960).

Charles Wolfe (1983) states 20th century fiddler Doc Roberts [1] (1897-1978, Ky) used to sing "a scatological ditty involving a dog, a grubbing hoe, and a straw" to the tune, from which several of the alternate titles appear to stem from. Alan Jabbour notes "it refers to a cycle of vulgar jingles that conjure up a dog excreting fantastical things." Joel Shimberg learned the following words to “Rye Straw” from Missouri fiddle tune collector Bob Christeson (1911-1922):

Dog shit a rye straw, dog shit a needle,
Dog shit a little boy playing on a fiddle.

Dog shit a rye straw, dog shit a minnow,
Dog shit a catfish big enough for dinner.

Dog shit a rye straw, dog shit a fiddle bow,
Dog shit a little boy working with a grubbing hoe.

These lyrics were sung to a different melody called “Pigtown Fling” by a Michigan fiddler (via Paul Gifford), but are clearly a variation of the above.

Dog shit a rye straw, dog shit a riddle-o,
Dog shirt a rye straw longer than a fiddle bow.

Dog shit a catfish longer than a minner-o,
Dog shit a catfish big enough for dinner-o.

West Virginia fiddler Ernie Carpenter remarked that the version fiddled by the regionally influential musician Lewis Johnson “Uncle” Jack McElwain (1856-1938) of White Oak (a tributary of Laurel Creek, near the village of Erbacon, Webster County, West Virginia) was so good that: “When Jack ‘Wain played it, you had to open the door and let the stink out” (Milnes, Play of a Fiddle, 1999). Early Grand Ole’ Opry star Uncle Dave Macon, a singer and banjo player, recorded the tune in 1938 (accompanied by a fiddler, identified by the late musicologist Charles Wolfe as Tennessee fiddler Charlie Arrington, who had also been a member of Paul Warmack & His Gully Jumpers) at the end of the song “Johnny Grey” (a version of the ballad “Peter Gray”).

Ernie Carpenter. Photo by Michael Keller. Courtesy Goldenseal Magazine

It has been variously mentioned as having been played by Rock Ridge, Alabama, fiddlers around 1920 (Bailey), and was mentioned in the autobiography and newspaper accounts of Tom Freeman of Cullman County, Alabama, and also in reports (1926/31) of the De Kalb County Annual (Fiddlers') Convention (Cauthen, 1990). It was one of the tune recorded by the Atlanta Constitution in an article on the April, 1913, Atlanta fiddler’s convention, as played by C.C. Moon of Logansville, Ga. (Wayne W. Daniel, 1990) . The tune was recorded for the Library of Congress by folklorist/musicologist Vance Randolph from Ozark Mountain fiddlers in the early 1940's. Influential Mt Airy, North Carolina, fiddler Tommy Jarrell knew the tune as "The Joke on the Puppy," though its most common name seems to have been "Rye Straw." A version of this tune is called "Lost Indian," a floating title.

Additional notes

Source for notated version: - Henry Reed (Monroe County, W. Va.) [Krassen]; Earl Collins [Reiner & Anick]; Ebenezer [Brody, Spadaro]; Howard 'Howdy' Forrester [Phillips]; Clayton McMichen (Ga.) [Phillips]; Ruthie Dornfeld (Seattle) [Phillips]; Doc Roberts (1897-1978, Madison County, Ky., 1930), learned from African-American fiddler Owen Walker [Titon]; Alan Jabbour, after Henry Reed [Silberberg].

Printed sources : - Brody (Fiddler’s Fakebook), 1983; p. 241. Ford (Traditional Music in America), 1940; p. 47. Krassen, 1983; pp. 94-95. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes vol. 1) 1994; pp. 205-206 (three versions). Reiner & Anick (Old Time Fiddling Across America), 1989; p. 123. Silberberg (Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern), 2002; p. 135. Spadaro (10 Cents a Dance), 1980; p. 2. Titon (Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes), 2001; No. 140, p. 166.

Recorded sources: - Biograph 6007, Ebenezer - "Tell it to Me." Briar 0798 (or BR 4204), Earl Collins - "That's Earl." Carryon Records 002, "Ace Weems and the Fat Meat Boys." Cassette C-7625, Wilson Douglas - "Back Porch Symphony." Columbia 15521 (78 RPM), Clayton McMichen & Riley Puckett (1930). Copper Creek CCCD 0193, Bill and Libby Hicks – “South of Nowhere” (Appears as “Dog Passed a Ryestraw”). County 412, Doc Roberts - "Fiddling Doc Roberts" (1983). County 527, Doc Roberts - "Old Time Fiddle Classics, vol. 2" (originally recorded 1930). County 788, Clyde Davenport (Monticello, Ky.) - "Clydeoscope: Rare & Beautiful Tunes from the Cumberland Plateau" (1986). Folkways FS 3809, John Summers - "Fine Times at our House". Gennett 7221 (78 RPM), Doc Roberts (1930). Marimac AHS 2, Melvin Wine. Mississippi Department of Archives and History AH-002, Frank Kittrell (Lauderdale County, Miss.) - "Great Big Yam Potatoes: Anglo-American Fiddle Music from Mississippi" (1985. Originally recorded in 1939). Rounder 0040, "Pickin' Around the Cookstove." Rounder 0128, The Backwoods Band - "Jes' Fine" (1980). Rounder 0132, Bob Carlin - "Fiddle Tunes for the Clawhammer Banjo" (1980). Rounder 1005, Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers - "Hear These New Fiddle and Guitar Records." Tennvale 001S, Bob Douglas - "Old Time Dance Tunes from Sequatchie Valley." Recorded by Uncle Am Stuart (b. 1856), Morristown, Tenn., in 1924 for Vocalion, and by Clayton McMichen in 1929. 5 String Productions 5SP05002, The Hoover Uprights – “Known for their Reputation” (2006).

See also listing at:
Jane Keefer’s Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [2]
See Alan Jabbour's handwritted standard notation transcription of "Rye Straw" from the playing of Henry Reed (Glen Lynn, Va.) [3]



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