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'''CHARLESTON NO. 2'''. American, Reel (cut time). USA, Mississippi. C Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB: AABB. This ragtime-influenced reel was composed by Willie Narmour (1889-1963, Carroll County, Mississippi) and recorded by he and playing partner "Shell" Smith in September, 1929, in New York City, with a 'B' side of "[[Carroll County Blues  No. 2]].  Both recordings were attempts to increase sales by tying the titles to an earlier very successful Narmour and Smith recording, a surprise hit.  The tune was later recorded by potato farmer and fiddler Hoyt Ming (1902-1985), from Choctaw, Mississippi, with his band The Pepsteppers. Victor talent scout Ralph Peer enlisted Ming (along with his wife, Rozelle {1902-1983}, and brother Troy) after they auditioned for him in Tupelo, Mississippi, in 1928. Peer invited them to come to Memphis where he had a recording studio, and cut four sides at their only 78 RPM-era session.  Ming continued to play local fairs and dances with a family band after the 78 RPM era, but had all but given up playing by the mid-1950's. He was 'rediscovered' (due to the efforts of Dave Freeman of County Records, who tracked Ming down in 1972) and the Ming band played the National Folk Festival in 1973 and the Smithsonian Festival of American Folklife in 1974, as well as recorded an album in 1975 (including "Charleston No. 2").  [[File:hoytming.jpg|500px|thumb|left|Hoyt Ming with wife Rozelle and brother Troy]]
'''CHARLESTON NO. 2'''. American, Reel (cut time). USA, Mississippi. C Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB: AABB. This ragtime-influenced reel was composed by Willie Narmour (1889-1963, Carroll County, Mississippi) and recorded by he and playing partner "Shell" Smith in September, 1929, in New York City, with a 'B' side of "[[Carroll County Blues  No. 2]].  Both recordings were attempts to increase sales by tying the titles to an earlier very successful Narmour and Smith recording, a surprise hit.  The tune was later recorded by potato farmer and fiddler Hoyt Ming (1902-1985), from Choctaw, Mississippi, with his band The Pepsteppers. Victor talent scout Ralph Peer enlisted Ming (along with his wife, Rozelle {1902-1983}, and brother Troy) after they auditioned for him in Tupelo, Mississippi, in 1928. Peer invited them to come to Memphis where he had a recording studio, and cut four sides at their only 78 RPM-era session.  Ming continued to play local fairs and dances with a family band after the 78 RPM era, but had all but given up playing by the mid-1950's. He was 'rediscovered' (due to the efforts of Dave Freeman of County Records, who tracked Ming down in 1972) and the Ming band played the National Folk Festival in 1973 and the Smithsonian Festival of American Folklife in 1974, as well as recorded an album in 1975 (including "Charleston No. 2").  [[File:hoytming.jpg|500px|thumb|left|Hoyt Ming with wife Rozelle and brother Troy]]
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There is an assertion that "Charleston No. 2" is the "[[Silver Star Hornpipe]]," however to my ear it does not sound similar to the tune of the latter title printed in '''Ryan's Mammoth Collection''' (1883).   
There is an assertion that "Charleston No. 2" is the "[[Silver Star Hornpipe]]," however to my ear it does not sound similar to the tune of the latter title printed in '''Ryan's Mammoth Collection''' (1883).   
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<font color=red>''Printed sources''</font> : -  Christeson ('''Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. 2'''), 1984; No. 47, p. 33.
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''Printed sources'': Christeson ('''Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. 2'''), 1984; No. 47, p. 33.
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''Recorded sources'': Document DOCD 8065, "Narmour & Smith, Complete Recorded Works 1928-1930, vol. 1" (2013).  Homestead Records LP 103, Hoyt Ming & His Pepsteppers - "New Hot Times" (1975). Okeh Records 45377 (78 RPM), Narmour & Smith (1929).  
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<font color=red>''Recorded sources'': </font> <font color=teal> -Document DOCD 8065, "Narmour & Smith, Complete Recorded Works 1928-1930, vol. 1" (2013).  Homestead Records LP 103, Hoyt Ming & His Pepsteppers - "New Hot Times" (1975). OKeh Records 45377 (78 RPM), Narmour & Smith (1929). </font>
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See also listings at:<br>
See also listings at:<br>
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [http://ibiblio.unc.edu/keefer/c04.htm#Cha2]<br>
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [http://ibiblio.unc.edu/keefer/c04.htm#Cha2]<br>
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Hear Hoyt Ming's recording at Slippery Hill [https://www.slippery-hill.com/recording/charleston-2]<br>
Hear Hoyt Ming's recording at Slippery Hill [https://www.slippery-hill.com/recording/charleston-2]<br>
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CHARLESTON NO. 2. American, Reel (cut time). USA, Mississippi. C Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB: AABB. This ragtime-influenced reel was composed by Willie Narmour (1889-1963, Carroll County, Mississippi) and recorded by he and playing partner "Shell" Smith in September, 1929, in New York City, with a 'B' side of "Carroll County Blues No. 2. Both recordings were attempts to increase sales by tying the titles to an earlier very successful Narmour and Smith recording, a surprise hit. The tune was later recorded by potato farmer and fiddler Hoyt Ming (1902-1985), from Choctaw, Mississippi, with his band The Pepsteppers. Victor talent scout Ralph Peer enlisted Ming (along with his wife, Rozelle {1902-1983}, and brother Troy) after they auditioned for him in Tupelo, Mississippi, in 1928. Peer invited them to come to Memphis where he had a recording studio, and cut four sides at their only 78 RPM-era session. Ming continued to play local fairs and dances with a family band after the 78 RPM era, but had all but given up playing by the mid-1950's. He was 'rediscovered' (due to the efforts of Dave Freeman of County Records, who tracked Ming down in 1972) and the Ming band played the National Folk Festival in 1973 and the Smithsonian Festival of American Folklife in 1974, as well as recorded an album in 1975 (including "Charleston No. 2").
Hoyt Ming with wife Rozelle and brother Troy



There is an assertion that "Charleston No. 2" is the "Silver Star Hornpipe," however to my ear it does not sound similar to the tune of the latter title printed in Ryan's Mammoth Collection (1883).

Additional notes

Source for notated version: -

Printed sources : - Christeson (Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. 2), 1984; No. 47, p. 33.

Recorded sources: -Document DOCD 8065, "Narmour & Smith, Complete Recorded Works 1928-1930, vol. 1" (2013). Homestead Records LP 103, Hoyt Ming & His Pepsteppers - "New Hot Times" (1975). OKeh Records 45377 (78 RPM), Narmour & Smith (1929).

See also listings at:
Jane Keefer's Folk Music Index: An Index to Recorded Sources [1]
Hear Narmour and Smith's 1929 recording at youtube.com [2]
Hear Hoyt Ming's recording at Slippery Hill [3]


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