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Theme code Index	15 13 16 52
Also known as	Seanduine Doit (An), Seanduine Doighte (An), Sean Duine Dóite, Burdened Old Man, Campbells are Coming (1) (The), Georgie the Dotard, Hob or Nob, Hob a Nob.
Composer/Core Source
Region	Ireland
Genre/Style	Irish
Meter/Rhythm	Air/Lament/Listening Piece
Key/Tonic of	D
Accidental	2 sharps
Mode	Ionian (Major)
Time signature	6/8
History
Structure	AAB
Editor/Compiler	Francis O'Neill
Book/Manuscript title	Book:Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies
Tune and/or Page number	No. 90, p. 17
Year of publication/Date of MS	1903
Artist	Biography:Martin Mulvihill with Mick Moloney
Title of recording	Traditional Irish Fiddling from County Limerick
Record label/Catalogue nr.	Green Linnet CSIF 1012
Year recorded	1978
Media
Score ()

BURNT OLD MAN [1] ("Seanduine Doit (An)/Doighte" or "Sean Duine Dóite"). AKA - "Burdened Old Man." AKA and see "Georgie the Dotard," "Hob or Nob/Hob a Nob." Irish, Air (6/8 time). D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AAB. Bayard (1981) believes this tune to be a cognate of the tunes "Miss McLeod's Reel (1)/Miss MacLeod's Reel (1)" and "Campbells are Coming (1) (The)," and that all three are "recognizable cognates of 'The White Cockade' as well." The song (which features bawdy lyrics on the 'maids never wed an old man' motif) can be found in Peter Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain and Ireland and was recorded by Relativity on their first album of the same name (Green Linnet SIF 1059). Caoimhin Mac Aoidh remarks that most older Irish fiddlers (even English-speaking ones) know the tune by the Gaelic name, "Sean Duine Dóite" (pronounced "shaan din-uh doy-chuh"), but that the English name is prevailing among the younger players. While the Irish word dóite does mean burnt, the title would be more meaningfully translated as "The Withered Old Man." The alternate title "Burdened Old Man (The)" is not used in Ireland. Breathnach's "Anthony Frawley's Jig" is a related tune.

Printed sources: Baoill (Ceolta Gael), pp. 84-85. Cotter (Traditional Irish Tin Whistle Tutor), 1989; No. 49. O'Neill (Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies), 1903; No. 90, p. 17.

Recorded source: Green Linnet SIF 3002, Kevin Burke & Jackie Daly - "Eavesdropper."

X:1
T:Burnt Old Man [1]
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:Air
S:O'Neill - Music of Ireland (1903), No. 90
Z:AK/Fiddler's Companion
K:D
D | (DEF) (AFE) | (DEF) !trill!(F2E) | (DEF) (BAF) | AFE !trill!E2F | DEF AFE | 
(FEF) (dcd) | (edB) !trill!(BAF) | (AFE) E2 :| F | .A.F.F .d.F.F | .A.F.F (~F2G) | 
AFF dcd | eEE E2F | (DEF) (AFE) | (FEF) (dcd) | edB (BAF) | AFE E2 ||

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-'''BURNT OLD MAN [1]''' ("An Seanduine Doit/Doighte" or "Sean Duine Dóite"). AKA - "Burdened Old Man." AKA and see "Georgie, the Dotard," "Hob or/a Nob." Irish, Air (6/8 time). D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AAB. Bayard (1981) believes this tune to be a cognate of the tunes "Miss McLeod's/MacLeod's Reel [1]" and "The Campbells are Coming [1]," and that all three are "recognizable cognates of 'The White Cockade' as well." The song (which features bawdy lyrics on the 'maids never wed an old man' motif) can be found in Peter Kennedy's '''Folksongs of Britain and Ireland''' and was recorded by Relativity on their first album of the same name (Green Linnet SIF 1059). Caoimhin Mac Aoidh remarks that most older Irish fiddlers (even English-speaking ones) know the tune by the Gaelic name, "Sean Duine Dóite" (pronounced "shaan din-uh doy-chuh"), but that the English name is prevailing among the younger players. While the Irish word dóite does mean burnt, the title would be more meaningfully translated as "The Withered Old Man." The alternate title "The Burdened Old Man" is not used in Ireland. Breathnach's "Anthony Frawley's Jig" is a related tune.
+'''BURNT OLD MAN [1]''' ("[[Seanduine Doit (An)]]/Doighte" or "[[Sean Duine Dóite]]"). AKA - "Burdened Old Man." AKA and see "[[Georgie the Dotard]]," "[[Hob or Nob]]/Hob a Nob." Irish, Air (6/8 time). D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AAB. Bayard (1981) believes this tune to be a cognate of the tunes "[[Miss McLeod's Reel (1)]]/[[Miss MacLeod's Reel (1)]]" and "[[Campbells are Coming (1) (The)]]," and that all three are "recognizable cognates of 'The White Cockade' as well." The song (which features bawdy lyrics on the 'maids never wed an old man' motif) can be found in Peter Kennedy's '''Folksongs of Britain and Ireland''' and was recorded by Relativity on their first album of the same name (Green Linnet SIF 1059). Caoimhin Mac Aoidh remarks that most older Irish fiddlers (even English-speaking ones) know the tune by the Gaelic name, "[[Sean Duine Dóite]]" (pronounced "shaan din-uh doy-chuh"), but that the English name is prevailing among the younger players. While the Irish word dóite does mean burnt, the title would be more meaningfully translated as "The Withered Old Man." The alternate title "[[Burdened Old Man (The)]]" is not used in Ireland. Breathnach's "[[Anthony Frawley's Jig]]" is a related tune.
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