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got it, I'm so used to thinking in abc I didn't realize you meant the title on the page.
Okay I thought you told me to use brackets ?
Thank you I wondered about that, I tried to replace The Blacksmith with a different tune because I realized the composer is still living. I can't seem to find the recording that I'd heard Bill Quern playing it, but had noted he credited T.Hobart Smith with it, I just foundout it is Bill Smith a living banjo player who wrote it.
Good Question. Knowing Alan a bit I'm pretty sure he'd be delighted to have others play his tunes. He did let someone else post it on FB, but it is always polite to ask 1st. So I should check with him.
I uploaded some more tunes, and used the[1] in a few, but don't know how to add them to a pre-existing page?
I noticed that my friend Mimi Boothby uploaded Culcuttie hornpipe after I had already done so, duplicating my page but with less accurate information. So the duplicate version needs to be deleted, and I don't know how to do that. I just added some more information to my version of the tune page; mine has both title words capitalized whereas she didn't capitalize "hornpipe."
Thanks Andrew! I spent a bit of time on the ABC sandbox yesterday I think I get it generally but some of the code is still a mystery to me - I'll look into it more thanks again!
Hi I'm new to this site and am wondering if you can answer a question I have about creating and submitting scores. For example I notice that Lonesome Fiddle Blues only has one line which seems incomplete - what do I have to do to finish it? Thanks Pete
P.S. I didn't put up the cross-tuned tunes or the solo version of Home Sweet Home at the end of the Adam/MelBay book, because I'm not good enough with abc's to deal with drones, left hand pizzicati, and other such complexities!
Actually what I have is the 1977 Mel Bay reprint, under the title of "Old Time Fiddle Solos." Apparently 6 tunes at the beginning of the Adam book were omitted from this reprint, and the tunes aren't numbered, which is why I didn't put in page or tune numbers. And I suspect that the chords in the Mel Bay book weren't in the original. It is still available, about $10 online.
Very interesting question about Dailey’s/Daley’s/Daly’s Reel! It is the same tune that Joe Pancerzewski recorded; the “Fiddling Moods” LP was issued in 1980. The Joe Greene recording is from 1969. Over the years the tune has become a standard among Western contest fiddlers and others; it’s hard to say which record was most influential locally: Joe G., Joe P., or Kenny Baker’s 1979 LP.
I have Joe Greene’s LP, and this is what the liner notes say: “Daley’s Reel and Money Musk are both Northern pieces. Daley’s Reel is a traditional Canadian tune, while Money Musk is played throughout New England and Canada and is derived from an English tune of the same name.” The liner notes were written by someone named Robert C. Fleder, who I don’t know anything about except that he also wrote the liner notes to the Stripling Brothers LP on County.
Other circumstantial evidence that it may be “traditional Canadian:”
I still have a copy of the description notes from the accumulated tapes that Phil and I recorded over the years, although the actual tapes are now at the State Historical Society of Missouri. Included is information for a tape labeled “Joe Pancerzewski Archive Tape [ca. 1973??]” where Joe plays Daley’s along with a bunch of Canadian and North Dakota tunes. Although it’s possible that he learned it from the Joe Greene LP (and Joe P. didn’t hesitate to learn tunes from any source, including several Kenny Baker tunes), the context seems to weigh against that – for an “archive tape” one would think that he would have chosen tunes that he had learned many years before, like most of the other tunes on that tape.
If you go to the Voyager website field recordings at https://www.voyagerrecords.com/nwffrmp3.htm , there’s a recording of a Senior division California fiddler named Alex Lieber playing Daley’s at Weiser, dated 1968. His version doesn’t sound much like Joe Greene’s: it’s much less “notey,” with better-defined phrasing than the bluegrass versions, so it does sound more “northern.” And Mr. Lieber didn’t get the tune from Joe Pancerzewski, because Joe P. didn’t get into the contest scene until 1970.
Another item listed in the Voyager tune archive is a jam session at the Astoria, Oregon fiddle contest in 1973 where Frank Ferrel is playing the tune – and at that time he was strictly into Canadian and Irish music. He could have learned it from Joe P. Hmmm, maybe you could e-mail Frank Ferrel and find out where he learned the tune!! His email is fferrel@aol.com .
One thing I did find out – the “Daly’s Reel” written by Joseph Daly and recorded by banjoist Fred Van Eps is a totally different tune, in spite of the occasional erroneous references I found online that called it the “original.”
I hope this is useful.
I just posted "The Celebrated Polka Dance" a.k.a. "Bohemian Polka." I don't have the "Plain Brown Tunebook," so I don't know if this is the same tune as the "Bohemian Polka" already up on TTA. On the one hand, the key and number of parts are different; on the other hand, the date of the London Illustrated Times publication of the tune and its subsequent popularity hint that it might be the same tune. I didn't put (2) on the alternate title - but I might have guessed wrong! If so, please fix! Thanks.
Oopsy, found another typo that I can't fix. The title of Blue Skirt Waltz is mis-spelled!
I've found another possible computer glitch: https://tunearch.org/wiki/Mrs._James_McInnes'_Strathspey—Edinburgh
The first bar of the 4th line seems to be the problematic one. When I remove the < > symbols, it appears correctly. I've had similar problems with dotted rhythms before, but I've managed to solve them by changing the beaming. Do you know what the problem could be?
Thanks! I'll have a play with it. It will come in handy.
No worries! I used to volunteer doing this kind of work at IMSLP and I enjoy it.
PS. I imagine it could look something like this?: https://tunearch.org/wiki/Book:Sixty_Eight_New_Reels_Strathspeys_and_Quicksteps
Hi Andrew, sorry for all the questions!
I've been using the "Query the Archive" search but when I search using the Book/Manuscript function I don't get any results. Is there a way of seeing all the contents of a particular collection in one place? I saw on O'Neill's collection page (https://tunearch.org/wiki/Book:Music_of_Ireland:_1850_Melodies) that there is an option to add a tunes list, but I haven't been able to find an example of this being done.
I noticed that the page numbers of Ross tunes you have here are off by one, at least compared with the NLS (1869) scan. Strange!. I'll get around to that collection eventually.
While I'm here, the composer page for Abraham Mackintosh uses an alternate spelling of his name; "MacIntosh." The majority of his tunes have been filed under "Mackintosh", so they don't link to the composer page. Is there a way to fix it? https://tunearch.org/wiki/Biography:Abraham_MacIntosh
Hi Andrew, you're correct about Amix. It somehow didn't click right away that I was looking at pipe notation, but I changed it back as soon as I realised. I found it on p.97 of the scan at the National Library of Scotland: https://digital.nls.uk/special-collections-of-printed-music/archive/104973329.
I'm sure you know it already, but their digitised collection is so comprehensive and the "search within" function on their site is a great way to find multiple versions of the same tune.
Hi Andrew,
I am not sure if this is the best place to ask for help, but I have a few questions.
I found a tune which has been duplicated three times and was wondering if there is a way of combining them? Or is it enough to link between them?
https://tunearch.org/wiki/Mrs._Campbell_of_Lochnell https://tunearch.org/wiki/Mr._Campbell_of_Lochnell https://tunearch.org/wiki/Honorable_Mrs._Campbell_of_Lochnell
I was about to add a transcription of Red Rob's original publication (1793) where it is titled "Honorable Mrs. Campbell of Lochnell's Reel."
There are some mistakes in the Athole transcription, is it wrong to correct them?
I also mistakenly created this duplicate - I forgot about Mackintosh's penchant for 6/8 reels. There isn't a source given for the "Reel" version, so I'm not sure which one came first. https://tunearch.org/wiki/Miss_Grant's_Quickstep https://tunearch.org/wiki/Miss_Dr._Grant's_Reel
Thanks for such a great resource! I'm enjoying contributing to it and I hope I can give back in some way.
Thanks! The latest bunch of tunes is from a messy and long-neglected file drawer, containing an accumulation of exceedingly miscellaneous tunes on unbound sheets of paper. Some of them are handwritten, some of them were sent to me decades ago by people I don't even remember, some were copied from unidentified books, some are clippings from fiddle association newsletters, many of them are total mysteries as to how I got them! Lots of fun, I never know what's going to turn up next!