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|f_book_title=Northern Fiddler (The)
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C: Peter Milne (1824-1908)
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N: Peter Milne was a friend and teacher of J.S.Skinner.
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B: Hunter 237, BSFC IX-2, John McNeil's Reel in SFT p.13, NEFR p.133
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'''BIG JOHN McNEIL(L)/McNEAL'''. AKA and see "[[John McNeil's Reel]]." Canadian, American, Scottish; Reel. Canada, widely known. USA; New England, Missouri. A Major. Standard (or infrequently AEae) tuning (fiddle). AABB (Gibbons, Messer, Sweet): AABB' (Miller & Perron): AA'BB' (Begin, Perlman, Phillips). Though now known as a Canadian standard it originally was a reel composed (as "John McNeil") by the brilliant Scottish fiddler Peter Milne (1824-1908), one of J. Scott Skinner's teachers and early playing partners, who earned his living playing in theaters until his opium addiction (he abused laudanum, originally prescribed for rheumatism) reduced him to busking on ferry-boats crossing the Firth of Forth. He died in unpleasant circumstances in a mental institution. John McNeil was a famous Highland dancer of the mid-to-later 19th century (see note for "John McNeil's Reel" for more). The melody was in the repertoire of Cyrill Stinnett, a fiddler who epitomised the 'North Missouri Hornpipe Style' of playing, who apparently learned it and other tunes from listening to Canadian fiddlers broadcasting on the radio from Canada. Indeed, an influential recording of the tune was made 'Down-East' Canadian fiddler Don Messer with his group the Islanders, early in the 1940's-among the first of the sides the group waxed. A similar melody is "[[Lord Ramsay's Reel (4)]]." Perlman (1996) notes the tune is a popular tune on Prince Edward Island, and a favorite vehicle for stepdancing in Prince County, PEI, on the eastern part of the island. Irish fiddler Sean Maguire recorded the melody in the 1960's under the title "[[Betty's Fancy (2)]]."
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''Sources for notated versions'': Max Sexsmith (British Columbia), who learned this "classic" reel in the 1940's from radio broadcasts and records by Don Messer and His Islanders (who recorded it in 1942) [Gibbons]; Jay Unger (West Hurley, New York) via Bud Snow (Putnam County, New York) who also learned it from Canadian fiddler Don Messer [Fiddle Fever]; Dawson Girdwood (Perth, Ontario) [Begin]. Francis MacDonald (b. 1940, Morell Rear, North-East Kings County, Prince Edward Island) [Perlman].
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''Printed sources:'' Begin ('''Fiddle Music in the Ottawa Valley: Dawson Girdwood'''), 1985; No. 5, p. 19. Feldman & O'Doherty ('''The Northern Fiddler'''), 1979; p. 187. Gibbons ('''As It Comes: Folk Fiddling From Prince George, British Columbia'''), 1982; No. 11, pp. 28-29. Messer ('''Anthology of Favorite Fiddle Tunes'''), 1980; No. 12, p. 79. Miller & Perron ('''New England Fiddlers Repertoire'''), 1983; No. 133. Perlman ('''The Fiddle Music of Prince Edward Island'''), 1996; p. 96. Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes''', vol. 1), 1994; p. 23. Silberberg ('''Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern'''), 2002; pg. 9. Sweet ('''Fifer's Delight'''), 1964; p. 77.
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''Recorded sources:'' Condor 977-1489, "Graham & Eleanor Townsend Live at Barre, Vermont." Flying Fish FF 247, "Fiddle Fever" (1981). Fretless 101, "The Campbell Family: Champion Fiddlers." GRT Records SP 203, "Ward Allen Presents Maple Leaf Hoedown, Vol. 1" (reissue). GRT Records 9230-1031, "The Best of Ward Allen" (1973). MCA Records MCAD 4037, "The Very Best of Don Messer" (1994). Rounder 0320, Bob Carlin & John Hartford - "The Fun of Open Discussion" (taught to Hartford in his early years by Missouri fiddler Gene Goforth).
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 Theme code Index    1L3L6L3L 13L6L3L
 Also known as    Big John McNeal, John McNeil, John McNeil's Reel, Lord Ramsay's Reel
 Composer/Core Source    Biography:Peter Milne
 Region    Scotland, Ireland, Canada, United States
 Genre/Style    Cape Breton/PEI, Contra, Down-East/Maritime, Irish, Scottish
 Meter/Rhythm    Reel (single/double)
 Key/Tonic of    A
 Accidental    3 sharps
 Mode    Ionian (Major)
 Time signature    4/4
 History    IRELAND(Ulster), USA(Central), USA(Mid Atlantic), USA(New England), CANADA(Maritimes/English), CANADA(Ottawa Valley/Ontario), CANADA(Western Canada)
 Structure    AABB'
 Editor/Compiler    Biography:Feldman & O'Doherty
 Book/Manuscript title    Book:Northern Fiddler (The)
 Tune and/or Page number    p. 187
 Year of publication/Date of MS    1979
 Artist    Ward Allen
 Title of recording    Ward Allen Presents Maple Leaf Hoedown vol. 1
 Record label/Catalogue nr.    GRT Records SP 203
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X:2 T:Big John McNeil T:Lord Ramsey's Reel T:John McNeil's Reel C:Peter Milne (1824-1908) R:reel H:A version of this is also called "Big John MacNeill" D:De Dannan: Mist Covered Mountain D:Begley & Cooney: Meitheal Z:id:hn-reel-510 M:C| K:A A,2CE FECE|AECE FECE|A,2CE FECE|FCEC B,DCB,| A,2CE FECE|AECE FECE|D2FD CDEC|1 B,A,G,A, B,CDB,:|2 B,A,G,A, B,2cd|| |:eA~A2 eAfA|eA~A2 efga|eA~A2 agfe|dB=GB dGBd| eA~A2 eAfA|eA~A2 efga|agfe fedc|1 BAGA B2cd:|2 BAGF EDCB,||


X:3 T: Big John McNeil C: Peter Milne (1824-1908) N: Peter Milne was a friend and teacher of J.S.Skinner. B: Hunter 237, BSFC IX-2, John McNeil's Reel in SFT p.13, NEFR p.133 M: C| L: 1/8 F:http://jc.tzo.net/~jc/music/abc/Scotland/reel/BigJohnMcNeil_A3.abc K: A |: E2 \ |A,2CE FECE | AECE FECE |\ A,2CE FECE | FAGF EDCB, | A,2CE FECE | AECE FECE |\ |B,DCE DFEG | FAGB cA A2 :| |: cd |eAfA eAca | eAfA e2 (3fga |\ eAfA eAce | daca B2cd | | eAfA eAca | eAfA e2fg |\ agfe fedc |[1 defg a2 :|[2 BAGF EDCB, :| HA,4 |]


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