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|f_track=Jig - Moll Roe.mp3
|f_track=Elk River Blues.mp3
|f_pdf=Moll Roe.pdf
|f_pdf=Elk River Blues.pdf
|f_artwork=Máire_Rua_O'Brien.jpg
|f_artwork=Ernie Carpenter.jpg
|f_tune_name=Moll Roe
|f_tune_name=Elk River Blues
|f_track_title=Moll_Roe_(1)
|f_track_title=Elk River Blues
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|f_played_by=[https://soundcloud.com/trad-tune-collection - Fionnlagh Ballantine]
|f_played_by=[https://soundcloud.com/jatek-zenekar Jatek Zenekar]
|f_notes=Máire Rua O'Brien, Irish aristocrat, of Leamaneh Castle.
|f_notes=Ernie Carpenter (1909-1997)
|f_caption=The "Moll Roe" referred to was an actual historical person, a redoubtable 17th century lady called Ma/ire Ruadh Ni/ Mahon, thrice-married chatelaine of Leamaneh Castle in County Clare, whose impressive remains stand beside the road from Ennis up to The Burren (the castle's remains, that is, not Ma/ire Ruadh's)
|f_caption=According to the booklet accompanying Carpenter's LP, the story behind the tune is one of a difficult adjustment to a forced change in Ernie's life.
|f_source=[https://soundcloud.com/trad-tune-collection/jig-moll-roe Soundcloud]  
|f_source=[https://soundcloud.com/jatek-zenekar/elk-river-blues Soundcloud]
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|f_article=[[Moll_Roe_(1) | '''Moll Roe''']]
|f_article=[[Elk River Blues | '''Elk River Blues''']]


The tune was introduced under the name "Moll Rue" in Henry Brooke's '''Jack the Giant Queller''' in 1748, and it was also called "Moll Rue in the Morning."
Composed by Braxton County, West Virginia, old-time fiddler Ernie Carpenter (1909-1997).


It appeared in O'Keefe's '''Poor Soldier''' in 1783, and in O'Farrell's '''A Pocket Companion for the Irish Pipes''' in 1810.  
According to the booklet accompanying Carpenter's LP, the story behind the tune is one of a difficult adjustment to a forced change in Ernie's life. He had worked most of his life for the Pittsburgh Plate Glass Company in Clarksburg, prior to retiring in 1972 to his home in Braxton County, West Virginia.  


In the journal '''Ceol''' (volume 2, No. 4) we are informed that "Moll Roe," as found in O'Neill's '''Dance Music of Ireland '''(No. 441), is a common name for the tune to the song "[[Taim in Arrears]]".  
He was a regular visitor during his working years to his homeplace on the Elk River, and was witness to the planning and construction of the Sutton Dam by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on the river during the 1950's and 1960's.  


Breathnach says O'Neill also prints variants under the titles "[[Ditherum Doodle]]", "[[Moll Roe in the Morning]]", "[[Though late I was plump]]" and "[[Munsterman's Flattery]]." As "[[I'll Take a Glass with a Friend]]" it appears in O'Farrell's '''Pocket Companion''' (printed before 1811).  
Unfortunately, this resulted in the flooding of his boyhood home and the surrounding area, despite the efforts of himself and neighbors to forestall the project through a lobbyist. He refused the government's initial offer for his land (they didn't offer him anything for his house), and took the case to court.  


'''Ryan's Mammoth Collection''' (1883) has versions as "Moll Roe's" and "[[Come Under My Dimity]]," while Goodman gives it as "[[Late on a Saturday Night]]" is a variant printed by Goodman, and identifies "[[Night of Fun (The)]]" as a variant.
He was able to gain a marked increase in the money he eventually was paid through this process, although he had to pay legal fees out of his pocket. He stayed in his Elk River homestead while the dam was being constructed, even though most of his neighbors had already left.  Workmen blocked the roads in and out of the area, but Carpenter found alternate routes until they too were closed off.  


The "Ditherum Doodle" title for the tune comes from its use as the vehicle for the song "Though late I was plump," in which 'ditherum doodle' starts off the burden or chorus. The lyric was printed in '''The Encyclopedia of Comic Songs''' (1820, p. 500):
"I was the last person out of there," he said," I went ahead then and tore the old place town and brought it up here. Part of its in this house." Of the tune, he remarked: "I was sittin' here one day, an' I had the blues. I reckon as bad as anybody could, thinkin' about my old homeplace up on the Elk River. I started sawin' on the fiddle an' that's what I came up with."
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''Though late I was plump, round, and jolly,''<br>
''I now am as thin as a rod;''<br>
''Oh, love is the cause of my folly,''<br>
''And soon I'll lie under a sod.''<br>
''Sing ditherum doodle, nagety, nagety, tragety rum,''<br>
''And goosetherum, foodle, fidgety, fidgety, nigety mum.''<br>
</blockquote>
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Latest revision as of 16:17, 4 October 2024



According to the booklet accompanying Carpenter's LP, the story behind the tune is one of a difficult adjustment to a forced change in Ernie's life.
Elk River Blues

Played by: Jatek Zenekar
Source: Soundcloud
Image: Ernie Carpenter (1909-1997)

Elk River Blues

Composed by Braxton County, West Virginia, old-time fiddler Ernie Carpenter (1909-1997).

According to the booklet accompanying Carpenter's LP, the story behind the tune is one of a difficult adjustment to a forced change in Ernie's life. He had worked most of his life for the Pittsburgh Plate Glass Company in Clarksburg, prior to retiring in 1972 to his home in Braxton County, West Virginia.

He was a regular visitor during his working years to his homeplace on the Elk River, and was witness to the planning and construction of the Sutton Dam by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on the river during the 1950's and 1960's.

Unfortunately, this resulted in the flooding of his boyhood home and the surrounding area, despite the efforts of himself and neighbors to forestall the project through a lobbyist. He refused the government's initial offer for his land (they didn't offer him anything for his house), and took the case to court.

He was able to gain a marked increase in the money he eventually was paid through this process, although he had to pay legal fees out of his pocket. He stayed in his Elk River homestead while the dam was being constructed, even though most of his neighbors had already left. Workmen blocked the roads in and out of the area, but Carpenter found alternate routes until they too were closed off.

"I was the last person out of there," he said," I went ahead then and tore the old place town and brought it up here. Part of its in this house." Of the tune, he remarked: "I was sittin' here one day, an' I had the blues. I reckon as bad as anybody could, thinkin' about my old homeplace up on the Elk River. I started sawin' on the fiddle an' that's what I came up with."

...more at: Elk River Blues - full Score(s) and Annotations



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