User:Andrew
Andrew Kuntz
Hello again, Regarding my point 1. below, I just made a further little edit to the Fidel Martin PaddyOn The Turnpike transcription.
Hi Andrew, Sorry I didn't get round to answering sooner. I hope you're well. There are several points to address so I'll try to be a bit organised and group things so as to try not to forget anything. // // 1. Paddy on the Turnpike. I see you already put in my changes to the transcription. I like your proposal for the Z field; I've just now updated it that way along with a few other minor tweaks (the double "G2 Bd" fragment that I mentioned below; added a coda, ...). // 2. I broadly agree with you about the pros and cons of notational complexity. But I think there are other resources with simple scores, and I don't think it's a problem if the transcriber feels like writing a more complex or involved version. I'm glad you approve anyway about my changes to the bar structure. // 3. My preference for writing reels with quarter notes instead of half notes is probably a bit quirky, but I don't think it's a problem either really. I think this choice is defensible, despite its quirkiness. // 4. Email - my email is [firstname]_[surname] at yahoo.fr . I'd be happy for you to write to me there. // 5. Track listing for the recording - I noticed recently there is one on the UGA Bron media archives web page (bmac.libs.uga.edu), even though it doesn't give the timings, it's still better than nothing. // 6. Did you get around to looking at my version of the Fidel Martin recording of St Anne's reel? I put it on tunearch a few days ago. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it. In particular, after a little more careful listening, my opinion is now that FM was playing a fiddle tuned one whole note down from the standard tuning. So I think it would be best for our Paddy On The Turnpike transcription to be shifted down a whole tone, along with a note about this nonstandard tuning. (As I did for my transcription of FM's St Anne's reel.) Alternately it could be left as is in G, and simply have different note about the tuning. //
Best,
Malcolm
Sorry, typo, I should have written Paddy On The Turnpike, not Paddy On The Rake, in my previous message.
I had another listen to the recording. I may want to make a few other tweaks to your score too. Maybe at some point I'll do something along the lines of what I did just now for St Anne's Reel. There is one issue in your version though that you may wish to fix yourself. In the middle of the B part you have "dBcA BGAF|G2 Bd G2 Bd". But FM only plays that "G2 Bd" fragment once. I'd write it my way, with semiquavers, like this: "[M:5/4]e(dBd) gagg dBcA BGAF G2Bd | egfa ... " Anyway. Sorry to bother you with all this. KR, Malcolm
Hi Andrew, just thought you may be interested. I took your transcription of the Fidel Martin setting of Paddy On The Rake and rearranged the meter and the bars. It didn't take very long, I only changed these two things; I made no changes to the notes. My way is how I see the phrase structure of this setting. KR, Malcolm
X:1 T:Paddy on the Turnpike [1] M:C| L:1/16 N:From an August 1, 1966, field recording of the playing of Fidel N:Martin (1891-1976) of Berlin N.H., originally from Rogersville, NB, recorded N:by folklorist Art Rosenbaum. Martin, a WWI veteran, had a repertory that N:consisted of Acadian, Irish, American and French-Canadian tunes. D: https://bmac.libs.uga.edu/index.php/Detail/objects/331630 F:UGA Brown Media Archives: identifier artrosen_00180 (Track 3 -29:03 of the tape) Z:Transcribed by Andrew Kuntz K:G GE||SDGDG G=FGG BGdG eGdG|DE=FG FEFF D-=FcF dFcF| DGG=F {GF}G2GA Bdef g-fgg|[M:3/4] dBcA BcAF G2GE| [M:C|]DGDG G=FGG "*"BGdG eGdG|DE=FG FE(F/E/F) D-=FcF dFcF| DGG=F {GF}G2GA "**"Bdef g2{a}ge|[M:3/4]dBcc BdAF G2Bd | [M:C|]egfa gfgg bgdg bgdg|eaea feff afdf afdf| egfa {a}g-f(g/f/g) bgdg bgdg| e(dBd) gagg dBcA BGAF|[M:2/4] G2Bd G2Bd | egfa gfgg bgdg bgdd|eaea {fg}feff afdf afdf| egfa (g/a/g/f/)gg bgdg bgdg|[M:5/4]e(dBd) gage dBcA (B/c/A/B/)AF .Gz GES|| P:Substitution "*"BddB eBdB||"**"Bdef gf(g/f/g)||
Hi Andrew, So. I made a transcription with a few notes and added it to the entry. Happy to hear any comments you have about it. KR, Malcolm
Hi, do you happen to know if there's a track listing for that half hour recording of Fidel Martin? There's a lot of good stuff in there! https://bmac.libs.uga.edu/Detail/objects/331630
I'm based in France. I added just a little info to my profile here - a link to my profile on thesession.org. https://thesession.org/members/40345
Hi Andrew,
Thanks very much for your speedy reply.
Let me just take the moment to say what a great resource this site is - and to thank you for your work on it.
I believe it's in C because I'm a fiddler myself and it seems to me I can hear the open strings which have slightly different timbres. It sounds like it's in C too, and I don't think it's an artefact of the recording or the tuning of the fiddle. And after another little listen I still don't think there should be those sharps. I reckon Fidel Martin, being isolated as you say, had his own ways of doing things. I really like this version because of these unusual idiosyncrasies - it's in C not D, and the "half turn" using a whole tone step at the bottom.
I have a fair few things on my list at the moment, but one of these days, perhaps in a week or two, I mean to go ahead and make the changes as you suggest. I think I prefer posting a separate ABC - I'll base it off yours though, that will give me a valuable start for things.
KR
Malcolm
Hi Andrew, A couple of comments about your transcription of St Anne's reel as played by Fidel Martin. https://tunearch.org/wiki/St._Anne's_Reel Firstly I don't think the sharps in bars 20 and 28 are correct. Secondly, I think the whole thing should be one tone lower, in C, not in D. Not sure what the correct next step is - as it's a wiki I could make changes myself to your transcription but maybe you'd prefer I didn't? KR Malcolm
I see - the "plus" symbol ( 002B) isn't going through. It's sometimes replaced by either a line return or a space.
Here's a shortened URL for it: https://tinyurl.com/3zybcsvs