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'''BIG INDIAN HORNPIPE'''. Old-Time, Hornpipe (cut time). USA, northeast Ky. A Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AABB. Source Buddy Thomas (1935-1974) learned this from northeast Kentucky/southern Ohio playing partners and mentors Morris Allen and Jimmy Wheeler. Thomas fiddle exponent Roger Cooper <ref>Liner notes to Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006). </ref> notes that there is another, different tune by this title played by Kentucky fiddlers George Hawkins and Alfred Bailey, even though they lived in nearby Bath County [Bailey's version can be heard on Rounder CD 0376, "Traditional Fiddle Music of Kentucky, vol. 1", 1997].  Cooper also recalls seeing a tune list from 1932 that contains a tune called "Big Engine Hornpipe."  Thomas may have composed the third strain variation himself, notes Cooper, which Thomas said represented an Indian's war cry. See also the related "[[Lardner's Reel (1)]]," from '''Ryan's Mammoth Collection''' (1883). [[File:thomas.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Buddy Thomas]]<br> The tune was also in the repertoire of Portsmouth, Ohio, fiddler and instrument repairer Jimmy Wheeler (1917-1987), who learned it either from his father or Acey "Aaa" Neal. Jeff Goehring says it was one of the "not-strictly Kentucky"  tunes "popular among Portsmouth area fiddlers of an earlier era" <ref>Jeff Goehring, "First Recording Session with Jimmy Wheeler" [https://fieldrecorder.org/first-recording-session-with-jimmy-wheeler/]</ref>.<br>
'''BIG INDIAN HORNPIPE'''. Old-Time, Hornpipe (cut time). USA, northeast Ky. A Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AABB. Source Buddy Thomas (1935-1974) learned this from northeast Kentucky/southern Ohio playing partners and mentors Morris Allen and Jimmy Wheeler. Thomas fiddle exponent Roger Cooper <ref>Liner notes to Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006). </ref> notes that there is another, different tune by this title played by Kentucky fiddlers George Hawkins and Alfred Bailey, even though they lived in nearby Bath County [Bailey's version can be heard on Rounder CD 0376, "Traditional Fiddle Music of Kentucky, vol. 1", 1997].  Cooper also recalls seeing a tune list from 1932 that contains a tune called "Big Engine Hornpipe."  Thomas may have composed the third strain variation himself, notes Cooper, which Thomas said represented an Indian's war cry. See also the related "[[Lardner's Reel (1)]]," from '''Ryan's Mammoth Collection''' (1883). [[File:thomas.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Buddy Thomas]]<br> The tune was also in the repertoire of Portsmouth, Ohio, fiddler and instrument repairer Jimmy Wheeler (1917-1987), who learned it either from his father or Acey "Aaa" Neal. Jeff Goehring says it was one of the "not-strictly Kentucky"  tunes "popular among Portsmouth area fiddlers of an earlier era" <ref>Jeff Goehring, "First Recording Session with Jimmy Wheeler" [https://fieldrecorder.org/first-recording-session-with-jimmy-wheeler/]</ref>.<br>
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<p><font face="sans-serif" size="2"> '''Additional notes''' </font></p>
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<font color=red>''Source for notated version''</font>: - Buddy Thomas (1935-1974, Lewis County, northeastern Ky.) [Phillips]. <br>
<font color=red>''Source for notated version''</font>: - Buddy Thomas (1935-1974, Lewis County, northeastern Ky.) [Phillips]. <br>
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<font color=red>''Printed sources''</font> : - Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 2'''), 1995; p. 180.  
<font color=red>''Printed sources''</font> : - Phillips ('''Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 2'''), 1995; p. 180.  
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<font color=red>''Recorded sources'': </font> <font color=teal> -Rounder 0032, Buddy Thomas (northeast Ky.) – "Kitty Puss: Old Time Fiddle Music From Kentucky" (1976. Originally recorded 1972). Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006).  </font>
<font color=red>''Recorded sources'': </font> <font color=teal> -Rounder 0032, Buddy Thomas (northeast Ky.) – "Kitty Puss: Old Time Fiddle Music From Kentucky" (1976. Originally recorded 1972). Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006).  </font>
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See also listing at:<br>
See also listing at:<br>
Hear Buddy Thomas's 1972 recording at Slippery Hill [https://www.slippery-hill.com/recording/big-indian-hornpipe] and at youtube.com [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs0RvlkQbag]<br>
Hear Buddy Thomas's 1972 recording at Slippery Hill [https://www.slippery-hill.com/recording/big-indian-hornpipe] and at youtube.com [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs0RvlkQbag]<br>

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BIG INDIAN HORNPIPE. Old-Time, Hornpipe (cut time). USA, northeast Ky. A Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AABB. Source Buddy Thomas (1935-1974) learned this from northeast Kentucky/southern Ohio playing partners and mentors Morris Allen and Jimmy Wheeler. Thomas fiddle exponent Roger Cooper [1] notes that there is another, different tune by this title played by Kentucky fiddlers George Hawkins and Alfred Bailey, even though they lived in nearby Bath County [Bailey's version can be heard on Rounder CD 0376, "Traditional Fiddle Music of Kentucky, vol. 1", 1997]. Cooper also recalls seeing a tune list from 1932 that contains a tune called "Big Engine Hornpipe." Thomas may have composed the third strain variation himself, notes Cooper, which Thomas said represented an Indian's war cry. See also the related "Lardner's Reel (1)," from Ryan's Mammoth Collection (1883).
Buddy Thomas

The tune was also in the repertoire of Portsmouth, Ohio, fiddler and instrument repairer Jimmy Wheeler (1917-1987), who learned it either from his father or Acey "Aaa" Neal. Jeff Goehring says it was one of the "not-strictly Kentucky" tunes "popular among Portsmouth area fiddlers of an earlier era" [2].

Additional notes

Source for notated version: - Buddy Thomas (1935-1974, Lewis County, northeastern Ky.) [Phillips].

Printed sources : - Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 2), 1995; p. 180.

Recorded sources: -Rounder 0032, Buddy Thomas (northeast Ky.) – "Kitty Puss: Old Time Fiddle Music From Kentucky" (1976. Originally recorded 1972). Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006).

See also listing at:
Hear Buddy Thomas's 1972 recording at Slippery Hill [1] and at youtube.com [2]



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  1. Liner notes to Rounder CD 0533, Roger Cooper - "Essence of Old Kentucky" (2006).
  2. Jeff Goehring, "First Recording Session with Jimmy Wheeler" [3]