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|f_annotation='''LOST INDIAN [1], THE.''' Old-Time, Texas Style; Breakdown. USA, Oklahoma, Texas, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia. A Major. AEac# tuning (fiddle). AABB (Thede), AABBC (Brody). Guthrie Meade and Mark Wilson (1976) point out that, among older traditional fiddlers, "Lost Indian" is a generic title for a number of tunes related not so much by melodic content as by the fact that they are characteristically played in scordatura (AEac#) tuning. Charles Wolfe, reiterating Wilson and Meade's line of thinking, confirms that the "Lost Indian" tunes are a family of fiddle tunes popular from Virginia to Texas, "more associated with tuning AEac# than with melodic contours" (1982, p. 3-12). The popular old-time/bluegrass flatpick guitar showpiece "[[Black Mountain Rag]]" is also in this family (Charles Wolfe, '''The Devil's Box''', Dec. ?), thought by some to be a derivative of "Lost Indian (1)." Fiddlers, perhaps inspired by the title, would sometimes let fly a vocal 'whoop' when playing the tune, to represent a Native-American lost in the wilderness. At other times, as in Kentucky fiddler Ed Hayley's (1885-1951) version, melodic and rhythmic features of the tune are similarly said to represent "an Indian squalling in the wilderness." A melody under the "Lost Indian" title was mentioned in a 1931 account of a LaFollette, northeast Tennessee fiddlers' contest as having been a common tune played by the assembled group. The title is a notorious "floater," though, and exactly which of the many different tunes and versions of "Lost Indian" was played by the Tennessee fiddlers in LaFollette is unknown. Moving to the American south midwest and southwest regions, a tune with this title appears in a list of traditional Ozark Mountain fiddle tunes compiled by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph, published in 1954, and is perhaps related to the version Marion Thede collected from Oklahoma fiddler Max Collins. "Lost Indian" was also the repertoire of fiddler Louis Propps (Texas, 1936). See also the related "[[Cherokee Shuffle]]." | |||
|f_source_for_notated_version= Max Collins (Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma) [Thede]; Ed Haley (Kentucky) and Ship in the Clouds (Indiana) [Brody]. | |||
|f_printed_sources=Brody ('''Fiddler's Fakebook'''), 1983; p. 178. Thede ('''The Fiddle Book'''), 1967; p. 31. | |||
|f_recorded_sources=County 202, "Eck Robertson: Famous Cowboy Fiddler." County 724, Benny Thomasson (Texas) - "Country Fiddling." Folkways 31062, Ship in the Clouds- "Old Time Instrumental Music" (1978. Learned from Ed Hayley). Front Hall FHR-037, Mark Graham - "Natural Selections" (1987). Green Linnet SIF122, Kevin Burke - "Open House" (1992). Marimac 9008, The Lazy Aces - "Still Lazy After All These Years" (1986). Rounder 0018, Mose Coffman- "Shaking Down the Acorns." Rounder 0157, Art Galbraith (Springfield, Mo.) - "Simple Pleasures." Rounder 1010, Ed Haley (Ky.) - "Parkersburg Landing" (1976). Voyager 301, Byron Berline- "Fiddle Jam Session." | |||
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'''LOST INDIAN [1], THE.''' Old-Time, Texas Style; Breakdown. USA, Oklahoma, Texas, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia. A Major. AEac# tuning (fiddle). AABB (Thede), AABBC (Brody). Guthrie Meade and Mark Wilson (1976) point out that, among older traditional fiddlers, "Lost Indian" is a generic title for a number of tunes related not so much by melodic content as by the fact that they are characteristically played in scordatura (AEac#) tuning. Charles Wolfe, reiterating Wilson and Meade's line of thinking, confirms that the "Lost Indian" tunes are a family of fiddle tunes popular from Virginia to Texas, "more associated with tuning AEac# than with melodic contours" (1982, p. 3-12). The popular old-time/bluegrass flatpick guitar showpiece "[[Black Mountain Rag]]" is also in this family (Charles Wolfe, '''The Devil's Box''', Dec. ?), thought by some to be a derivative of "Lost Indian (1)." Fiddlers, perhaps inspired by the title, would sometimes let fly a vocal 'whoop' when playing the tune, to represent a Native-American lost in the wilderness. At other times, as in Kentucky fiddler Ed Hayley's (1885-1951) version, melodic and rhythmic features of the tune are similarly said to represent "an Indian squalling in the wilderness." A melody under the "Lost Indian" title was mentioned in a 1931 account of a LaFollette, northeast Tennessee fiddlers' contest as having been a common tune played by the assembled group. The title is a notorious "floater," though, and exactly which of the many different tunes and versions of "Lost Indian" was played by the Tennessee fiddlers in LaFollette is unknown. Moving to the American south midwest and southwest regions, a tune with this title appears in a list of traditional Ozark Mountain fiddle tunes compiled by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph, published in 1954, and is perhaps related to the version Marion Thede collected from Oklahoma fiddler Max Collins. "Lost Indian" was also the repertoire of fiddler Louis Propps (Texas, 1936). See also the related "[[Cherokee Shuffle]]." | |||
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Revision as of 03:04, 4 June 2020
X:1 T:Lost Indian [1] M:C| L:1/8 R:Reel S:Ed Haley via Tom Sauber N:Tune fiddle AEac#. Transcription is as sounds in standard notation, not as fingered in scordatura. N:From a transcription by John Lamancusa, by permission http://www.mne.psu.edu/lamancusa/tunes.htm Z:AK/Fiddler's Companion K:A |:[E2A2] [A(f][Ac)] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|[Af][Ae][Ac][Af] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|[E2A2] [Af][Ac] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|ABcB AcBA| [E2A2] [Af][Ac] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|[Af][Ae][Ac][Af] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|[E2A2] [Af][Ac] [Ae][Af][Ae][Ac]|AcBG A2 [(E2A2]:|| E)F A2 [c4c4]|[c3c3]B cBAc|BAFA EFAB|cdcB AcBG|A2(E2 E)FAB| [c2c2]c2 (3BcB Ac|BAFA EFAB|cABc AcBG|A2(E2 E)FAB|[c2c2]c2 (3BcB Ac| BAFA EFAB|cdcB AcBG|A2(E2 E)FAB|[c2c2]c2 (3BcB Ac| BAFA EFAB|cABc AcBG|\ M:1/2 L:1/8 A2E2|\ M:C| L:1/8 |:FA2B A2A2|FAAc BAFE| FA2B A2A2|FGAc BAFE|FA2B cABc|AcBG A2E2:|]
LOST INDIAN [1], THE. Old-Time, Texas Style; Breakdown. USA, Oklahoma, Texas, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia. A Major. AEac# tuning (fiddle). AABB (Thede), AABBC (Brody). Guthrie Meade and Mark Wilson (1976) point out that, among older traditional fiddlers, "Lost Indian" is a generic title for a number of tunes related not so much by melodic content as by the fact that they are characteristically played in scordatura (AEac#) tuning. Charles Wolfe, reiterating Wilson and Meade's line of thinking, confirms that the "Lost Indian" tunes are a family of fiddle tunes popular from Virginia to Texas, "more associated with tuning AEac# than with melodic contours" (1982, p. 3-12). The popular old-time/bluegrass flatpick guitar showpiece "Black Mountain Rag" is also in this family (Charles Wolfe, The Devil's Box, Dec. ?), thought by some to be a derivative of "Lost Indian (1)." Fiddlers, perhaps inspired by the title, would sometimes let fly a vocal 'whoop' when playing the tune, to represent a Native-American lost in the wilderness. At other times, as in Kentucky fiddler Ed Hayley's (1885-1951) version, melodic and rhythmic features of the tune are similarly said to represent "an Indian squalling in the wilderness." A melody under the "Lost Indian" title was mentioned in a 1931 account of a LaFollette, northeast Tennessee fiddlers' contest as having been a common tune played by the assembled group. The title is a notorious "floater," though, and exactly which of the many different tunes and versions of "Lost Indian" was played by the Tennessee fiddlers in LaFollette is unknown. Moving to the American south midwest and southwest regions, a tune with this title appears in a list of traditional Ozark Mountain fiddle tunes compiled by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph, published in 1954, and is perhaps related to the version Marion Thede collected from Oklahoma fiddler Max Collins. "Lost Indian" was also the repertoire of fiddler Louis Propps (Texas, 1936). See also the related "Cherokee Shuffle."
