Big John McNeil

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Theme code Index	1L3L6L3L 13L6L3L
Also known as	Big John McNeal, John McNeil, John McNeil's Reel
Composer/Core Source	Biography:Peter Milne
Region	Scotland, Ireland, Canada, United States
Genre/Style	Cape Breton/PEI, Contra, Down-East/Maritime, Irish, Scottish
Meter/Rhythm	Reel (single/double)
Key/Tonic of	A
Accidental	3 sharps
Mode	Ionian (Major)
Time signature	4/4
History	IRELAND(Ulster), USA(Central), USA/Mid-Atlantic"USA/Mid-Atlantic" is not in the list (IRELAND(Munster), IRELAND(Connaught), IRELAND(Leinster), IRELAND(Ulster), SCOTLAND(Argyll and Bute), SCOTLAND(Perth and Kinross), SCOTLAND(Dumfries and Galloway), SCOTLAND(South Ayrshire), SCOTLAND(North East), SCOTLAND(Highland), ...) of allowed values for the "Has historical geographical allegiances" property., USA/New England"USA/New England" is not in the list (IRELAND(Munster), IRELAND(Connaught), IRELAND(Leinster), IRELAND(Ulster), SCOTLAND(Argyll and Bute), SCOTLAND(Perth and Kinross), SCOTLAND(Dumfries and Galloway), SCOTLAND(South Ayrshire), SCOTLAND(North East), SCOTLAND(Highland), ...) of allowed values for the "Has historical geographical allegiances" property., Canada/Maritimes (English)"Canada/Maritimes (English)" is not in the list (IRELAND(Munster), IRELAND(Connaught), IRELAND(Leinster), IRELAND(Ulster), SCOTLAND(Argyll and Bute), SCOTLAND(Perth and Kinross), SCOTLAND(Dumfries and Galloway), SCOTLAND(South Ayrshire), SCOTLAND(North East), SCOTLAND(Highland), ...) of allowed values for the "Has historical geographical allegiances" property., Canada/Ottawa Valley/Ontario"Canada/Ottawa Valley/Ontario" is not in the list (IRELAND(Munster), IRELAND(Connaught), IRELAND(Leinster), IRELAND(Ulster), SCOTLAND(Argyll and Bute), SCOTLAND(Perth and Kinross), SCOTLAND(Dumfries and Galloway), SCOTLAND(South Ayrshire), SCOTLAND(North East), SCOTLAND(Highland), ...) of allowed values for the "Has historical geographical allegiances" property., Canada/Western Canada"Canada/Western Canada" is not in the list (IRELAND(Munster), IRELAND(Connaught), IRELAND(Leinster), IRELAND(Ulster), SCOTLAND(Argyll and Bute), SCOTLAND(Perth and Kinross), SCOTLAND(Dumfries and Galloway), SCOTLAND(South Ayrshire), SCOTLAND(North East), SCOTLAND(Highland), ...) of allowed values for the "Has historical geographical allegiances" property.
Structure	AABB'
Editor/Compiler	Biography:Feldman & O'Doherty
Book/Manuscript title	Book:Northern Fiddler (The)
Tune and/or Page number	p. 187
Year of publication/Date of MS	1979
Artist	Ward Allen
Title of recording	Ward Allen Presents Maple Leaf Hoedown vol. 1
Record label/Catalogue nr.	GRT Records SP 203
Year recorded
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BIG JOHN McNEIL(L)/McNEAL. AKA and see "John McNeil's Reel." Canadian, American, Scottish; Reel. Canada, widely known. USA; New England, Missouri. A Major. Standard (or infrequently AEae) tuning (fiddle). AABB (Gibbons, Messer, Sweet): AABB' (Miller & Perron): AA'BB' (Begin, Perlman, Phillips). Though now known as a Canadian standard it originally was a reel composed (as "John McNeil") by the brilliant Scottish fiddler Peter Milne (1824-1908), one of J. Scott Skinner's teachers and early playing partners, who earned his living playing in theaters until his opium addiction (he abused laudanum, originally prescribed for rheumatism) reduced him to busking on ferry-boats crossing the Firth of Forth. He died in unpleasant circumstances in a mental institution. John McNeil was a famous Highland dancer of the mid-to-later 19th century (see note for "John McNeil's Reel" for more). The melody was in the repertoire of Cyrill Stinnett, a fiddler who epitomised the 'North Missouri Hornpipe Style' of playing, who apparently learned it and other tunes from listening to Canadian fiddlers broadcasting on the radio from Canada. Indeed, an influential recording of the tune was made 'Down-East' Canadian fiddler Don Messer with his group the Islanders, early in the 1940's-among the first of the sides the group waxed. A similar melody is "Lord Ramsay's Reel (4)." Perlman (1996) notes the tune is a popular tune on Prince Edward Island, and a favorite vehicle for stepdancing in Prince County, PEI, on the eastern part of the island. Irish fiddler Sean Maguire recorded the melody in the 1960's under the title "Betty's Fancy (2)."

Sources for notated versions: Max Sexsmith (British Columbia), who learned this "classic" reel in the 1940's from radio broadcasts and records by Don Messer and His Islanders (who recorded it in 1942) [Gibbons]; Jay Unger (West Hurley, New York) via Bud Snow (Putnam County, New York) who also learned it from Canadian fiddler Don Messer [Fiddle Fever]; Dawson Girdwood (Perth, Ontario) [Begin]. Francis MacDonald (b. 1940, Morell Rear, North-East Kings County, Prince Edward Island) [Perlman].

Printed sources: Begin (Fiddle Music in the Ottawa Valley: Dawson Girdwood), 1985; No. 5, p. 19. Feldman & O'Doherty (The Northern Fiddler), 1979; p. 187. Gibbons (As It Comes: Folk Fiddling From Prince George, British Columbia), 1982; No. 11, pp. 28-29. Messer (Anthology of Favorite Fiddle Tunes), 1980; No. 12, p. 79. Miller & Perron (New England Fiddlers Repertoire), 1983; No. 133. Perlman (The Fiddle Music of Prince Edward Island), 1996; p. 96. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 1), 1994; p. 23. Silberberg (Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern), 2002; pg. 9. Sweet (Fifer's Delight), 1964; p. 77.

Recorded sources: Condor 977-1489, "Graham & Eleanor Townsend Live at Barre, Vermont." Flying Fish FF 247, "Fiddle Fever" (1981). Fretless 101, "The Campbell Family: Champion Fiddlers." GRT Records SP 203, "Ward Allen Presents Maple Leaf Hoedown, Vol. 1" (reissue). GRT Records 9230-1031, "The Best of Ward Allen" (1973). MCA Records MCAD 4037, "The Very Best of Don Messer" (1994). Rounder 0320, Bob Carlin & John Hartford - "The Fun of Open Discussion" (taught to Hartford in his early years by Missouri fiddler Gene Goforth).

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