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Thanks! I'll have a play with it. It will come in handy.
No worries! I used to volunteer doing this kind of work at IMSLP and I enjoy it.
PS. I imagine it could look something like this?: https://tunearch.org/wiki/Book:Sixty_Eight_New_Reels_Strathspeys_and_Quicksteps
Hi Andrew, sorry for all the questions!
I've been using the "Query the Archive" search but when I search using the Book/Manuscript function I don't get any results. Is there a way of seeing all the contents of a particular collection in one place? I saw on O'Neill's collection page (https://tunearch.org/wiki/Book:Music_of_Ireland:_1850_Melodies) that there is an option to add a tunes list, but I haven't been able to find an example of this being done.
I noticed that the page numbers of Ross tunes you have here are off by one, at least compared with the NLS (1869) scan. Strange!. I'll get around to that collection eventually.
While I'm here, the composer page for Abraham Mackintosh uses an alternate spelling of his name; "MacIntosh." The majority of his tunes have been filed under "Mackintosh", so they don't link to the composer page. Is there a way to fix it? https://tunearch.org/wiki/Biography:Abraham_MacIntosh
Hi Andrew, you're correct about Amix. It somehow didn't click right away that I was looking at pipe notation, but I changed it back as soon as I realised. I found it on p.97 of the scan at the National Library of Scotland: https://digital.nls.uk/special-collections-of-printed-music/archive/104973329.
I'm sure you know it already, but their digitised collection is so comprehensive and the "search within" function on their site is a great way to find multiple versions of the same tune.
Thanks for the help! It's a steep learning curve.
Hi Andrew,
I am not sure if this is the best place to ask for help, but I have a few questions.
I found a tune which has been duplicated three times and was wondering if there is a way of combining them? Or is it enough to link between them?
https://tunearch.org/wiki/Mrs._Campbell_of_Lochnell https://tunearch.org/wiki/Mr._Campbell_of_Lochnell https://tunearch.org/wiki/Honorable_Mrs._Campbell_of_Lochnell
I was about to add a transcription of Red Rob's original publication (1793) where it is titled "Honorable Mrs. Campbell of Lochnell's Reel."
There are some mistakes in the Athole transcription, is it wrong to correct them?
I also mistakenly created this duplicate - I forgot about Mackintosh's penchant for 6/8 reels. There isn't a source given for the "Reel" version, so I'm not sure which one came first. https://tunearch.org/wiki/Miss_Grant's_Quickstep https://tunearch.org/wiki/Miss_Dr._Grant's_Reel
Thanks for such a great resource! I'm enjoying contributing to it and I hope I can give back in some way.
Thanks! The latest bunch of tunes is from a messy and long-neglected file drawer, containing an accumulation of exceedingly miscellaneous tunes on unbound sheets of paper. Some of them are handwritten, some of them were sent to me decades ago by people I don't even remember, some were copied from unidentified books, some are clippings from fiddle association newsletters, many of them are total mysteries as to how I got them! Lots of fun, I never know what's going to turn up next!
I just added the complete score to Centennial Waltz. The title of the tune in the already existing entry is mis-spelled, and I can't fix it. I guess there's one advantage to all this lock-down and social isolation stuff; it allows more time for playing with the TTA!
Yikes, I found a big fat mistake in TTA that is beyond my ability to fix. The entry for "The St. Kilda Wedding" has the wrong tune in it. "St. Kilda's Reel" is a totally unrelated tune. So I didn't want to just graft the real St Kilda Wedding score and info into that entry, because it's in a different key and the history is different. But I don't have the ability to change the tune title, or the confidence to move all the info into a new tune entry for "St. Kilda's Reel." And I don't want to create a new tune entry for The St. Kilda Wedding because that would be hopelessly confusing.
I’ve just posted a bunch of info about “Fanny Elsler’s Spanish Chacuca” on TTA, plus I added a waltz tune derived from it, “My Daddy Was a Dutchman” (among many other names) as a separate tune. Naturally, since I am techno-ignorant, there are some problems with my entries – they don’t want to link to other TTA tune titles (except where I didn’t want them to, and I “fixed” that by adding (2) to the title), and there are some extraneous weird things like <brdata-mce-bogus="1" /> that I can’t get rid of. I’m sure that you guys will have no trouble fixing these minor issues!
I’m curious about another version of the tune, which seems to be intermediate between these two tunes. It’s William Sidney Mount’s version, where the second part of the tune sounds similar to the “My Daddy Was a Dutchman” version, rather than the original Cachucha. This is very odd, since Mount attended one of Elssler’s performance in 1840 or 1841 and wrote down the tune from his memory of that performance. I have written down abc’s of what I heard from the Smithsonian “Cradle of Harmony” recording. But the violinist, Gilbert Ross, plays so un-rhythmically that it’s hard to know where the first beat of the bar actually is! You have had access to Mount’s notebooks; do you have a copy of his version of the tune?
This is my interpretation of what Ross played:
X:1 T:La Cachuca second part % from William Sidney Mount M:3/4 L:1/8 K:G F GA|B3Ac2|B4 G2|B2c2d2|e2dc BA|A2^G2B2|A4 AA|A2B2c2|e2d2BB| B2A2c2|B4 G2|B2c2d2|e2d2 AB|A2^G2 B2|A4^G2|A2B2c2|e2d2||
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Try this one :https://soundcloud.com/trad-tune-collection/jig-kitty-lie-over
I met Fionnlagh Ballantine by chance looking for some clips on soundcloud.
I invite you to visit his channel on SoundCloud.
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It's a gold mine
Ciao
I'm going to have to give up on using tunes from the bcfiddlers. They convert just fine on the Colin Hume and Montreal Session sites, but there's something preventing them from displaying properly on TTA, and I don't know enough about abc's to troubleshoot them. Sorry -- there are some good tunes there that I haven't found elsewhere. Vivian
This is getting really weird. I entered a new tune, Little Village Waltz, but the abc's won't convert to sheet music when I save the file. I got them from the BC Fiddlers site, and they converted fine when I put them in 2 different abc converters (Colin Hume, and Montreal Session). So what do I do now? Vivian Williams
Yikes, I got confident in my ABC editing ability and decided to do a bit of tinkering with Orvetta Waltz (2) - namely separate the first eighth notes following the dotted quarters, to clearly distinguish them from the triplets in other sections. But the display got all messed up, so I tried to restore what was there before, but now I can't get the whole tune to display. Sorry, I should have left well enough alone!!!! Vivian Williams
There are two unrelated tunes called Orvetta Waltz, and they are both played by fiddlers. And they're both on the same TTA page. The Chambers abc collection has both tunes, and calls the Vesta Johnson one "Orvetta Waltz (2)." I was going to try to create another page on TTA so I could separate the two tunes, but this could involve changing the name of the current one, which I think is beyond my power! Plus, the transcription of the Spencer tune on the TTA page is kind of messed up, with a bunch of extraneous repeat marks at the end of sections, and I'm not an abc expert. The fiddle recording I have of the Spencer tune is Myllie Barron's "Fiddler on the Loose," Voyager 331 (1982). So how do we go about separating the two waltzes, and which one should be (1) and which one should be (2)?? Vivian Williams
I just noticed that the second half of the article A Night at the Opera from Fiddler Magazine Fall 2008 is missing from Traditional Tune Archive, although it is on Fiddlers Companion. Vivian Williams
Hello Andy, do you receive this message along with the correct notification next to the ringing bell in the top left corner?
I keep on sending messages using this board-to-board system but it doesn't seem to work. Let's see!
Hello Andrew, I have enabled the Echo extension again because I received some clue from the community. I'm monitoring the TTA but please let me know if you feel the system is slowing down in the coming days. Thanks.
>> Is this the one you're referring to? I don't think so... I'm referring to a "pending friend request" with Andrew. It'd show up to you as an e-mail from TTA (like the one you receive when I send you a message. (PS: you can stop receiving this e-mails just configuring your profile. See the bottom of the e-mails)