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For all its superficial resemblance to the Orcadian 'Old Polka' and 'Beatrice Hill's Three "Handed Reel", which are both version's of Jullien's "Moldavian Schottische", "Jimmy o' the Bu's Polka" is, in fact, the 1st and 3rd parts of the "Silverton Polka", recorded by Peter Wyper in 1915.
| Jimmy o' the Bu's Polka | | Philip Heath-Coleman | | Aug 5, 2024 at 11:23 pm | | | Jimmy o' the Bu's Polka | |
Peter Dawson cannot be the composer of that tune. He was only 12 years old when Isidore Soucy recorded it in 1938 under the title Gigue des pochards. | Dawson not the composer | | Jeanduval | Jeanduval | Jul 30, 2024 at 9:06 pm | Jul 30, 2024 at 9:09 pm | | Gatineau Reel | |
Is this a real Tune? | Strange annotation | | WikiSysop | | Jun 4, 2024 at 6:42 pm | | | 'A', 'E' and 'D' Quadrille | |
Tommy Duchesne recorded the tune as "Le reel du petit cordonnier" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9BR_EfYjrc] | More on this tune | | Andrew | | May 24, 2024 at 9:49 pm | | | Cobbler's Reel (1) | |
Thanks for posting that extensive survey, Jean. Great information. | More on this tune | | Andrew | | May 24, 2024 at 9:36 pm | | | Cobbler's Reel (1) | |
The first recording of this melody was by Joseph Allard in 1933:
T:Reel du père Latrimouille
M:2/4
L:1/16
C:J. Allard / Victor 263916 / 1933
P:JD
K:G
"A"B2d2|g4 fgaf|g2g2 B2Bd|f4 efge|f2f2 B2Bd|!
g4 fgaf|g2g2 B2d2|f2((3fgf) ecAF|G2G2:||:!
"B"BddB|G2G2 FGAB|c3c AFAd|f2ed cBAG|B2G2 BddB|!
G2G2 FGAB|c3c AFAd|f2((3fgf) ecAF| G2G2:||
However, Isidore Soucy had recorded one of the two parts in 1930, as the 3rd part of his Quadrille des Laurentides:
T:Quadrille des Laurentides - 3ème partie
M:2/4
L:1/16
C:I.Soucy / Starr 15736a / 1930
K:D
"A"fgaf d2d2|ffdf a2g2|gage c2ef|gfga b2a2|abaf d2d2|ffdf a2g2|gage cAAA
|BABc d2d2:||:!
"B"ABAG F2A2|d2d2 e2E2|cBcd c2A2|BABc B2A2|ABAG F2A2|d2d2 e2E2|cBcd c2A2
|BAFA d2d2:||
Also in 1930, harmonica player Adélard St-Louis recorded a song with part of the well-known lyrics, but using melody of the Pigtown Fling for the song. Notice how the B part has a similar contour to the Cobbler's reel, though in E minor:
T: Tu maries ma fille
M: 2/2
L: 1/8
C: Adélard St-Louis et Borromée Bernaquez / Columbia 34272 / 1930
K: G
"A"ge|d2ed B2ge | dBAB G2ge | d2ed B2AG | FAEF G2ge | !
d2ed B2ge | dBAB G2ge | d2ed B2AG |1 FAEF G2:||2 FAEF G2G2||!
"B"B2e2e2g2 | fgaf gfed | B2e2e2g2 | fgaf gfg2 | !
B2e2e2g2 | fgaf gfed | B2e2e2g2 | fgab g2||
Isidore Soucy proposed another version than Allard in 1936:
T:Partie de set canadien
M:2/4
L:1/16
C:I.Soucy / Bluebird B-4859a / 1936
K:G
"A"B2d2|g2g2 fgaf|ggg2 B2d2|({fg}f2)f2 efge|f2f2 B2d2|!
g2g2 fgaf|ggg2 B2d2|fgfe
dcBA|1G2G2:||2
M:1/4
G2Bc|| |:!
M:2/4
L:1/16
"B"dedB G2Bc|BAGB d2c2|cdcA F2AB|AFAc e2d2|!
dedB G2Bc|BAGB d2c2|cdcA F2e2|1dcAB G2Bc:||2dcAB G2G2||
Then, Tommy Duchesne recorded it as Reel des cordonniers in 1941. I don't know of any version with the title Reel du petit cordonnier. There is tune/song with the title Le petit cordonnier by Alfred Montmarquette in 1928, but it's a different song, and a unrelated tune.
Both Thiffaut and Duchesne recorded it as a song in 1958, but with different lyrics, and a similar chorus.
| More on this tune | | Jeanduval | | May 23, 2024 at 10:43 pm | | | Cobbler's Reel (1) | |
C:Abraham Mackintosh | also, the Glen collection listed a composer for this tune | | ShamanStarseed | | Feb 21, 2024 at 1:51 am | | | Dunse Castle | |
B/c/|dBgB dgBg|dBgB aAAB/c/|dBgB bBgB|eg d/e/d/c/ BGG:|
B/c/|dgBg dGGB/c/|dgBg aAAB/c/|dgBg caAc|BdAc BGGB/c/|
dgBg dGGB/c/|dgBg aAAB/c/|dbca BgAf|ge d/e/d/c/ BGG|| | CORRECTED. one D note in wrong octave.. | | ShamanStarseed | | Feb 21, 2024 at 1:41 am | | | Dunse Castle | |
This tune is derived from 19th century French quadrille music. A similar, but much trickier tune, was used for the 4th part of the quadrille. Here's the abc:
X:1
T: Les visites (4e partie de quadrille)
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
C: From 1974. Pierre Conté. Danses anciennes de cour et de théâtre en France.
K: A
c/d/|ecA AGA | a3agf | ecA AGA | ^ABG E2c/d/ |
ecA AGA | a3def | fec edB | A3A2G/A/ | !
B2B B2B | (g3 g)fe | e^de BAG | BAF F2G/A/ |
B2B Be^d | c^Bc f^ef | BcB Bc^d | (e3e2)E | !
(=c3c)BA | A^GA B2E | d^cd fed | d=cB c2e |
e2a a2g | g3fed | cge Bdc | (A3A2)|| | French quadrille tune | | Jeanduval | | Jan 22, 2024 at 5:50 pm | | | Lilting Fisherman (The) | |
Looking at the label for Bluebird B-4886 (1936), it looks like the side "Breakdown de minuit" was recorded by Ferland, while the flip side ("Reel Lasalle") was recorded by Allard. | Maurice Ferland | | Andrew | | Jan 21, 2024 at 9:21 pm | | | Prime's Hornpipe | |
Maurice Ferland was not a pseudonym for Joseph Allard. He was a fiddler living in Manitoba (born in Quebec) who recorded 13 tunes on the Bluebird label. | Maurice Ferland | | Jeanduval | | Jan 21, 2024 at 3:30 am | | | Prime's Hornpipe | |
This tune probably originates from 19th century quadrille music. Québécois fiddler Lucien Roussin recorded a fancy version of it as the 4th part of his Saratoga Lancers for Starr in 1929. Here's the abc:
X:4
T: 4. Saratoga - Lanciers (Fig. 4)
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
C: Lucien Roussin / Starr 15551-B / january 1929
K: D
"A"A2B/B/ A^GA | BAF DFA | d2A/A/ e2A/A/ | (f3 f)((3d/e/f/) |g2f g2b | !
afd Adf | e2^d/d/ e2B | c3 B3 | A(3a/a/a/ a2a |!
A2B A^GA | BAF DFA | d2A/A/ e2A/A/ | (f3 f)((3d/e/f/) |g2f g2b | !
afd A2B | c2c/c/ cfe | "fine"{c}d3 d>cd ||!
"B"e2c/c/ e2g | f>de f2a | ^g>fe dcB | A>ce a>cd | !
e2c/c/ e2g | f>de f2a | ^g>fe ^g>fe | {A}a(3a/a/a/ a3|| | Saratoga Lancers | | Jeanduval | | Jan 19, 2024 at 3:52 pm | | | Bank of Turf (1) (The) | |
There is a mistake in the annotations. The similarities are not with Allard's Cotillon à huit, but with Soucy's Le Cotillon, recorded in 1927. Here's the abc:
X: 51
T:51. Le cotillon
M:2/2
L:1/8
C:I.Soucy / Starr 15349b / 1927
K:G
"A"G2Bd gagf| edef gfg2|D2GA B2AG|FAAB A2d2|!
BGBd gagf|edef gagf|e2ef e^cAF|
M:1/2
G2d2|!
M:2/2
BGBd gagf|edef gfg2|
M:3/2
L:1/8
DGBG DGBG DGBG|
M:2/2
FAAB A2d2|!
BGBd gbag|edef gagf|e2ef e^cAF|
M:1/2
G2d2||!
M:2/2
"B"D2GA ({Bc}B2)AG|FGAB cBc2|D2GA ({Bc}B2)AG|FAAF D2DE|!
D2GA ({Bc}B2)AG|FGAB cdcA|BGBd ecAF|
M:1/2
G2d2|!
M:2/2
DDGA ({Bc}B2)AG|FGAB cdcB|AGFA d2BG|A2AF D2DE|!
D2GA ({Bc}B2)AF|DFAB cdcA|
BGBd ecAF|
M:1/2
G2dc||
I have another version (square!) from Jean-Baptiste April, fiddler recorded by Marius Barbeau in 1918. Here's the abc:
X:12
T: 12. Quadrille - 5e partie
M: 2/2
L: 1/8
C: Jean-Baptiste April / Fonds Barbeau MCH / 1918
K: G
"A"Bc|dcBd g2{a}gf | edea gfgB | GABG dGBG | FGAG FGAd | !
BGBd g2{a}gf | edef gfgd |efge dBcA | BGAF G2:||! |:
"B"GF|DFGA BGBG | FGAB cBcA | GABG dGBG | FGAG FED2 | !
DFGA BGBG | FGAB cBcA |Bcdf ecAF | B2[B2G2][B2G2]:||
Finally, Philippe Bruneau also recorded the tune as Reel de Ste-Blandine, first tune on his 1974 Philo Records album.
| Reel de Ste-Blandine and other versions | | Jeanduval | | Jan 11, 2024 at 7:06 pm | | | Miss Lacey's Hornpipe | |